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UKIP are now a parliamentary party



Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
UKIP now have a seat in parliament after winning in Clacton. They also came within 620 of taking a Labour safe seat, so is this the breakthrough they've been looking for, or is it just a typical mid-term protest vote?
 






pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
quite interesting to watch the post match interviews with each of the main 3 parties arguing about who had lost the most votes to UKIP. You all did you mongs!

Interesting also how the main 3 parties are now all singing from the same hymn sheet and claiming UKIP is a protest party against the failings of Westminster in general.

How do these idiots expect anyone to vote for them if they dont even know what the primary main purpose of their new rival is about.

clueless divvies the lot of them
 






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,204
perhaps the people of Essex voted with the bigger picture in mind,with regards to immigration policy,thinking about the UK as a whole and not just a little corner of Essex

must try harder Fishy!
Perhaps indeed Pasta.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,019
while Clacton obviously saw a tory loss, if you look at the numbers they still kept 40% of their vote. so where did all 21k votes for Carswell come from? Labour lost 6k there and almost lost Heywood, so they must be very worried this morning.
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
As far as I am concerned, Farage can keep banging the UKIP drum as long as he likes until people finally realise that we are selling our souls to the most corrupt public body the world has ever seen. Any organisation that has not been able to have its accounts signed off for over 10 years should be out of business, closed down. It is illegal and criminal and yet it is largely shaping our future. It is a bureaucratic gravy train, offering additional big fat pensions ( at the tax payers expense ) to fading politicians. It is a private members club for overpaid officialdom.
Its cost outweighs its benefits. As you can gather, I'm not a fan.
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Don't get why it is such a big deal, the people of clacton seemed to vote for the bloke they already knew and had previously been their MP.
It could have been any party and he would still have won.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Don't get why it is such a big deal, the people of clacton seemed to vote for the bloke they already knew and had previously been their MP.
It could have been any party and he would still have won.

You may be right that they selected the bloke they already thought was a good MP BUT, the surprise was that it was with an increased majority. Combined with the Heywood result ( remember that was classed as a 'safe' Labour seat ) and you can bet both Red Ed and CMD are changing their underpants this morning.

There's going to be some on here with egg on their face come the GE.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,706
The Fatherland
while Clacton obviously saw a tory loss, if you look at the numbers they still kept 40% of their vote. so where did all 21k votes for Carswell come from? Labour lost 6k there and almost lost Heywood, so they must be very worried this morning.

Good job it's first past the post eh?
 


sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
225
UKIP now have a seat in parliament after winning in Clacton. They also came within 620 of taking a Labour safe seat, so is this the breakthrough they've been looking for, or is it just a typical mid-term protest vote?

UKIP attract about 15 to 20% of the population who go for their simplistic populist policies. If these people are energised, as in this by election, and the turnout is low (51%) UKIP will get a high share of the vote as they did. It is up to the 80% sensible people to vote to make sure these silly people do not succeed. As Edmund Burke might have said "The only necessary thing for UKIP to triumph is for good people to do nothing"
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
UKIP attract about 15 to 20% of the population who go for their simplistic populist policies. If these people are energised, as in this by election, and the turnout is low (51%) UKIP will get a high share of the vote as they did. It is up to the 80% sensible people to vote to make sure these silly people do not succeed. As Edmund Burke might have said "The only necessary thing for UKIP to triumph is for good people to do nothing"

Thats a bit ' Monty Pythonish ' isn't it?
A lot of people voting UKIP are doing so because they are sensible enough to work out what membership of the EU actually means and what it is costing us and what we are getting in return. They do not want to turn a blind eye to the bureaucratic corruption in Brussels and Strasbourg. The tens of millions going missing. The complete lack of accountability. The loss of control over much of our law-making. Faceless civil sevants controlling our lives and charging us a fortune for the privilege. They want some control back.
 






sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
225
Thats a bit ' Monty Pythonish ' isn't it?
A lot of people voting UKIP are doing so because they are sensible enough to work out what membership of the EU actually means and what it is costing us and what we are getting in return. They do not want to turn a blind eye to the bureaucratic corruption in Brussels and Strasbourg. The tens of millions going missing. The complete lack of accountability. The loss of control over much of our law-making. Faceless civil sevants controlling our lives and charging us a fortune for the privilege. They want some control back.

They don't understand that being part of a huge home market creates jobs. They don't realise that the EU has guaranteed peace in the past and will in the future. They don't understand that we need immigration to save us from an ageing population. They don't realise what a complete nonsense the UKIP manifesto was at the last election - so ridiculous that Farage now disowns it despite signing it off. They don't realise how circumscribed every government is in a globalised world and what sovereignty actually means in a modern world. They don't understand much except "they don't like what is going on". Not much of a basis for anything sensible

Can you imagine what would happen on day 1 of a UKIP government?
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,204
What's wrong with a sensible immigration policy, did Australia just allow you to walk in? What where your requirements before being allowed in to Australia.
Could you just turn up at their border because you a member of the EU and start working?
I am white and Anglo Saxon, so very welcome :)
 








5mins-from-amex

New member
Sep 1, 2011
1,547
coldean
They don't understand that being part of a huge home market creates jobs. They don't realise that the EU has guaranteed peace in the past and will in the future. They don't understand that we need immigration to save us from an ageing population. They don't realise what a complete nonsense the UKIP manifesto was at the last election - so ridiculous that Farage now disowns it despite signing it off. They don't realise how circumscribed every government is in a globalised world and what sovereignty actually means in a modern world. They don't understand much except "they don't like what is going on". Not much of a basis for anything sensible

Can you imagine what would happen on day 1 of a UKIP government?

Keep banging that drum, believe everything that you have been drip fed by main stream media while us 'silly people' can see the bigger picture.
 


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