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UK Terror Threat Level Raised To 'Severe'
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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no. the security services are quite capable of increasing their state of alert without a government minister coming out and telling us that we are now at condition orange. this is symptomatic about the nanny state, we are being told how much we should be worried and fearfull. i want the security services to portect by acting, not politans wave a flag to say how much they are doing. i dont want to be warned, i want them to prevent. all the current situation does is create fear, doing the work of the terroist for them, with out this warning we could all have had a blissfully ignorant weekend. now its going to be at the top of the news, while nothing will actually happen.
it might even overshadow our game at Villa
Sergei's Celebration
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no. the security services are quite capable ... while nothing will actually happen.
it might even overshadow our game at Villa
I agree that the Security Service should protect by acting and that there is a school of thought that suggests that if you alert, you create fear and thus fueling the terrorists chosen aim but the suggestion that this is symptomatic about the nanny state i disagree with. Now this is chicken and egg stuff but are they not responding to public wishes about being informed, the current trend, the thirst for information? or does the public thrive on the information provided? For me that one the jury is still out
Oh and nothing will overshadow villa...it party time!!!!!!!
F*cking terrible wasnt it, invading a sovereign peaceful, almost heaven like country like Iraq which had never done any harm to neighbouring states or it's own people, ever.
You're a knob of the worst kind. Saddam Hussein was a fascist dictator, end of story. If you're a liberal then would you have said how terrible and imperialist the international brigades were in the 30s when they went to fight Franco and try to save Spain from Fascism? No, you wouldn't.
In your dreamland of a world there are no bad brown people are there, just horrible nasty western democracies causing trouble the world over. Get your head out of your arse and join the real world where Islamic fundamentalist terrorism - which started awakening again in the 1920's - is a very real threat to everything that we hold dear. Womens rights, trade union rights, democracy! Try reading or listening to people like Christopher Hitchens, Nick Cohen, Martin Amis et al, instead of the 'O' level style politics of Michael Moore and the self hating bullshit of Noam Chomsky that you so clearly devour. Grrrrhhh.
daveinprague
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If you want to fight Americas wars. Sign up and join the army. Dribbling about how right it is, is all very well when other peoples children are sent to fight battles for your beliefs.
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So Britain who were losing the war against the Germans asked America for our help which they obliged.Anyone thinks we didn't need there help are talking shit.America knew they were taking on a costly and long campaign when they fought back after 9/11.Sorry mate your talking crap.
Britan needs a super power like America as a key ally end of.
I's not for no reason if they think it could serve a purpose other than increase alertness. Whether that be pr (jack straw is doing the rounds talking about how he was against the war and could have stopped it, not exactly great for some people for that story to get a lot of press)
Or perhaps increase sales of certain products with an increased terror alert leading to people buying goods in case something happens and they're house bound which could feed into the economy
The level of threat or intelligence can be exaggerated. And publicly saying the threat level is severe doesn't necessarily mean money is being spent to the rate you suggest.
And the intelligence they receive and act on is always correct? No. So there might not be anyone in the latter stages of planning an attack. It could be outdated intel, it could be false intel given by a torture suspect or someone trying to act like they're in the know and either the intelligence services have recommended orange just in case or politicians are using the uncertainty as an excuse to up the terror alert to serve their own purpose.
The same america which proclaimed neutrality and left us to fight the blitz (which we succeeded with and had repelled the germans) on our own, then only got involved in the war when they themselves were attacked?
A war was under way, a war that involved multiple countries and america were wanted to help defend countries from german invasion. Germany had a vested interest because a unified europe would be a threat to their superpower. Still, they only got involved after japan attacked them.
Britain didn't start the second world war. They were forced into it by the actions of germany.
America wanted to start the war in iraq, and they wanted britain to help them do it. The comparison doesn't fit.
daveinprague
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Yeah, America needs our army to help them fight goat herders in Afghanistan. What they did 50 years ago is what? History. History is also the Americans not supporting Britain, other than material support, after a fascist government invaded the Falklands. What we have now, is a Islamic fundamentalist war against America, because and they have constantly stated the same reason, because of American troops (infidels) in the Islamic holy land, and they are there for no other reason other than to protect oil flow to the usa from Saudi. I think they are big enough, and bad enough to fight this war on their own. While we are involved with them, we can expect to be attacked by terrorists in the UK, and that suits the US, as it means the war is fought, as they say. ..over there, and not over here.......over there being anywhere but the US.
I realise a lot of people support this war, for all sorts of reasons, but theres many than dont support it. British troops are there to protect the British people, not put them in a position of danger by their actions, and involvement in American foreign policy.
If you want to fight islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I cant change you mind but nobody will change mine either.
I realise a lot of people support this war, for all sorts of reasons, but theres many than dont support it. British troops are there to protect the British people, not put them in a position of danger by their actions, and involvement in American foreign policy.
If you want to fight islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I cant change you mind but nobody will change mine either.
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looney
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- Jul 7, 2003
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A heads up for you deluded types, mass immigration is not a bar to "just" wars, regardless of how right they are. It is a reason for mass expulsions and repatriations when these wars come along.
Maybe some people haven't thought the consequences of immigration through?
Leekbrookgull
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These warning lights that are used,are they enviromently friendly ? I mean being blown-up is one thing,but at least i want to know has HM Govt cut it carbon foot-print !!! 
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Is this threat level rise connected to Hove Born & Breds run of blogs in the Argus?
looney
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Is this threat level rise connected to Hove Born & Breds run of blogs in the Argus?
Raised from tedious to mind numbingly boring. The next levels are stupor, Coma and Death.
