[News] UK government allows use of pesticide that kills bees.

[Chicken Run]

The British beet sugar industry grows, processes and delivers high quality sugar to around 50% of the UK market, and exports across the world. It is the lowest cost sugar producer in the world.

The industry supports up to 9,500 British jobs. Jobs are created in the manufacturing plants and on farms. Suppliers to the factories also create more jobs as the demand for services increases in line with sugar production and manufacturing processes.

In addition, the British homegrown sugar supply chain involves around 7,000 different businesses making it one of the largest customers for many goods and services in the East of England.


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True, a lazy expression by me in my reply yet I’m just sceptical that it will be limited to a specific crop and timescale.



Yep you’re possibly right there and I guess farmers possibly struggling with export markets post brexit need to trim costs and come back to intensive farming methods to make ends meet. This would leave them susceptible to pressure/lobbying from pesticide manufacturers as well.

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[Worried Man Blues]

Thankfully there are many other methods of pollination, including the wind, other insects etc, so it’s not quite a calamitous as that.

You can always use a paint brush, good luck, wind my arse!

 

[AmexRuislip]

You can always use a paint brush, good luck, wind my arse!

Sex and wind

 

[RossyG]

wind my arse!

No thanks, but wind can definitely carry pollen. Ask any hay fever sufferers.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

No thanks, but wind can definitely carry pollen. Ask any hay fever sufferers.

Why do people with fruit farms import bee hives every year when they could leave it to the wind.....................JHC

 

[RossyG]

Why do people with fruit farms import bee hives every year when they could leave it to the wind.....................JHC

Because bees are better at it.

But that doesn’t mean that it’s them or no pollination occurring whatsoever, which is what you said.

Be thankful you’re wrong on this one.

 

[Thompson720]

Also singed

Thank you!

 

[rogersix]

Thankfully there are many other methods of pollination, including the wind, other insects etc, so it’s not quite a calamitous as that.

you don't get this

 

[rogersix]

Because bees are better at it.

But that doesn’t mean that it’s them or no pollination occurring whatsoever, which is what you said.

Be thankful you’re wrong on this one.

nearly none, which will be catastrophic

 

[Diablo]

Instead, Boris Johnson have promised to personally pollinate all the flowers and crops.



Sugar beet yields down 20-25% can only be a good thing to everyone who is not a sugar beet farmer.

Wrong.. in fact, very bad for consumers as a 25% drop in production may well see a doubling of prices.

Overproduction is the cause of falling food prices. Shortages in production causes price increases

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Except that the EU has also granted exceptions.

Well in that case Brexit was supposed to allow us to adopt different regulations to that corporate-orientated mob.

Either way I'm not going to miss an opportunity to bash Eustice, a poor quality MP at local and national level.

As a scientist and conservationist I don't know enough about this issue to properly comment, but the circumstances in which a crop is prioritised over a declining wildlife species should be highly limited.

 

[Swansman]

Wrong.. in fact, very bad for consumers as a 25% drop in production may well see a doubling of prices.

Overproduction is the cause of falling food prices. Shortages in production causes price increases

And?

People need to eat less sugar stuff.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Bees are important of course.

Humans are important also, bad humans that adopt the covid idiot status need stringing up.

Is anyone going to start a petition on it?

I am happy to sign up.

 

[stewart_weir]

Instead, Boris Johnson have promised to personally pollinate all the flowers and crops.



Sugar beet yields down 20-25% can only be a good thing to everyone who is not a sugar beet farmer.

Sugar Beet prices going to get caned due to Brexit anyway. **** sugar beet - Save The Bees

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

I seem to recall that the top scientists are pushing for a change of the name from pesticides to something else as the word pesticides implys that it's a product that only kills pests and the research is growing that it has a huge impact on other species including humans,the most at risk being farm workers themselves.
Bees are not a pest so this product is a failure and should not be used.

 

[knocky1]

A reprise this year. The freezing temperatures have killed off much of the yellow virus disease this year and the threat is below the level for the toxic bee killer to be authorised for 2021. Still a future nightmare.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-now-will-not-be-used-on-uk-sugar-beet-fields

 

[CheeseRolls]

Sugar beet was always derided as one of the worst excesses of the common agricultural policy (EU self sufficiency in food). You would think there would be a rush to grow more desirable crops in the UK and go back to importing sugar cane. It's almost as if this purest Brexit argument has been sidelined by a rush of sweet political donations. If the bees want protecting they know what they need to do.

 

[vegster]

Sugar beet was always derided as one of the worst excesses of the common agricultural policy (EU self sufficiency in food). You would think there would be a rush to grow more desirable crops in the UK and go back to importing sugar cane. It's almost as if this purest Brexit argument has been sidelined by a rush of sweet political donations. If the bees want protecting they know what they need to do.

I think I'm right in saying that there is no dietary need for sugar anyway. It's one of many products that big business dictates that we eat such as flavourless Cheddar, water filled Bacon, water filled Chicken breasts and white bread.