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[Football] "Uh no he'll sign all of our good players"



Hove Lagoonery

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Dec 16, 2008
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How very odd OP that 'nicht' and 'nein' are assigned to Howe and the Portugeezer instead of the German and Austrian managers!
 




Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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Coldean
If he feels he needs some players that are already supportive of him, to help win over the dressing room, I could se him coming in for a couple.
Sanchez and Caicedo would be perfect transfers, as they both have a high ceiling and are already good enough to play at that level.

Other than that I can't see him being interested in any of our other players.

Sanchez doesn't get into the Chelsea team ahead of Mendy, plus they already have an expensive reserve in Kepa, they are not going to spend 70-80m on yet another keeper, unless they offload one of those, and Sanchez isn't going to risk his International position that he's just earned sitting on the bench at Chelsea when he's first team here.
 


Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
21,175
Born In Shoreham
Seen PLENTY of posts about Graham Potter and Chelsea coming to sign Sanchez, Webster, Trossard, Caicedo and Ali Mac.

What is that based on?

Certainly not on managers usually doing that. Here's all the managers with a previous club (anyone except Arteta) who were in charge in the summer (= not O'Neil, Crofts and Potter) and how they've gone about it.

Jurgen Klopp
Last club: Borussia Dortmund
Players signed from Dortmund: none, not a god damn soul

Pep Guardiola
Last club: Bayern
Players signed from Bayern: not one single little fecker

Thomas Frank
Last club: Bröndby
Players signed from Bröndby: nah

Ralph Hasenhuttl
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: nil

Brendan Rodgers
Last club: Celtic
Players signed from Celtic: no.

David Moyes
Last club: Sunderland
Players signed from Sunderland: nope

Bruno Lage
Last club: Benfica
Players signed from Benfica: yes plenty. Just kidding; zero.

Marco Silva
Last club: Everton
Players signed from Everton: nein

Patrick Vieira
Last club: Nice
Players signed from Nice: yer mum is palace and nice. other than that, no.

Steve Cooper
Last club: Swansea
Players signed from Swansea: they've signed players from every single club except Swansea

Antonio Conte
Last club: Inter
Players signed from Inter: Ivan Perisic

Eddie Howe
Last club: Bournemouth
Players signed from Bournemouth: nicht

Steven Gerrard
Last club: Rangers
Players signed from Rangers: not even as much as a little Goldson. They did sign 16 year old Rory Wilson however.

Frank Lampard
Last club: Chelsea
Players signed from Chelsea: oh ye they'd like that wouldn't they. but no.

Jesse Marsch
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: Tyler Adams

Erik ten Hag
Last club: Ajax
Players signed from Ajax: Lisandro Martinez & Antony

16 managers, 4 players (5 if you count the kid from Rangers). And you're saying GP is going to sign five players from Brighton?

That managers frequently go for players from former clubs is a myth. Don't worry about it.
You also said Potter wouldn’t be interested to go to Chelsea.
 


Perkino

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Dec 11, 2009
6,056
Given that he insisted that his man Macauley be embedded within Winstanley's recruitment team, I think its fair to assume he had more of a say, and gave more direction, than Hughton did.

But of course, Winstanley is still here and the Starlizard data is still here. There's no disaster there.

I am more interested that Winstanley stayed when Potter arrived with Macauley, Bloom & Barber must trust him and view him as an integral part of the system. We have to remember that many of the superstar signings were made or at least identified before Potter arrived. Chelsea may try and sign some of our players within the next 12 months but succession planning is our strong point
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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Am interesting point.

There is no doubt in my mind that Potter had been tapped up by Chelsea some considerable time before Tuesday.

That Potter in my thoughts is little more than a conniving personality, it does beg the question as to how much influence he had in Cucurella s transfer.

We’ve been the victims of a confidence scam
 




cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
6,322
La Rochelle
We’ve been the victims of a confidence scam

Indeed.

To get 6 members of our staff all lined up in a row, will have taken weeks of negotiations.

Potter is truly a duplicitous character and void of any moral worth.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
12,220
Seen PLENTY of posts about Graham Potter and Chelsea coming to sign Sanchez, Webster, Trossard, Caicedo and Ali Mac.

What is that based on?

Certainly not on managers usually doing that. Here's all the managers with a previous club (anyone except Arteta) who were in charge in the summer (= not O'Neil, Crofts and Potter) and how they've gone about it.

Jurgen Klopp
Last club: Borussia Dortmund
Players signed from Dortmund: none, not a god damn soul

Pep Guardiola
Last club: Bayern
Players signed from Bayern: not one single little fecker

Thomas Frank
Last club: Bröndby
Players signed from Bröndby: nah

Ralph Hasenhuttl
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: nil

Brendan Rodgers
Last club: Celtic
Players signed from Celtic: no.

David Moyes
Last club: Sunderland
Players signed from Sunderland: nope

Bruno Lage
Last club: Benfica
Players signed from Benfica: yes plenty. Just kidding; zero.

Marco Silva
Last club: Everton
Players signed from Everton: nein

Patrick Vieira
Last club: Nice
Players signed from Nice: yer mum is palace and nice. other than that, no.

Steve Cooper
Last club: Swansea
Players signed from Swansea: they've signed players from every single club except Swansea

Antonio Conte
Last club: Inter
Players signed from Inter: Ivan Perisic

Eddie Howe
Last club: Bournemouth
Players signed from Bournemouth: nicht

Steven Gerrard
Last club: Rangers
Players signed from Rangers: not even as much as a little Goldson. They did sign 16 year old Rory Wilson however.

Frank Lampard
Last club: Chelsea
Players signed from Chelsea: oh ye they'd like that wouldn't they. but no.

Jesse Marsch
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: Tyler Adams

Erik ten Hag
Last club: Ajax
Players signed from Ajax: Lisandro Martinez & Antony

16 managers, 4 players (5 if you count the kid from Rangers). And you're saying GP is going to sign five players from Brighton?

That managers frequently go for players from former clubs is a myth. Don't worry about it.

I think Arteta should be included, although he wasn’t the manager he did go back to his former club for Jesus and Zinchenko this summer. It isn’t common but it does happen, especially if your name is Micky Adams.
 


cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
6,322
La Rochelle
It does help to explain why Tuchel has been significantly more arsey this season.

The writing has clearly been on the wall for him on the day the new chairman took over.

How can you manage properly when you already know that Potter was in place behind your back.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
Indeed.

To get 6 members of our staff all lined up in a row, will have taken weeks of negotiations.

Potter is truly a duplicitous character and void of any moral worth.

No it wouldn't
"Would you like to work with all your current close colleagues, but at Cobham instead of Lancing, and earn 3 to 5 times as much?"
No need to move, no change of workmates, just different players to work with, well even one of those new players you have worked with all last year. Bruno will chop his Porsche in for a minibus and they can all ride together to training.

I will admit that it seems likely that Potter had prior notice that they liked him and had maybe already said to his coaches that there may be a possibility so to have a think about it, but not long negotiations over wages and conditions etc. I suspect TB and PB were aware of the possibility too, but nothing agreed beyond what the release fee would be, before Tuchel was released.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
It does help to explain why Tuchel has been significantly more arsey this season.

The writing has clearly been on the wall for him on the day the new chairman took over.

How can you manage properly when you already know that Potter was in place behind your back.

One of the stories I read about Tuchel and Todd was a disagreement over Ronaldo, Todd wanted to sign him and Tuchel did not, this story seems to have come from Todd too, I think he thought it would make him look smart and Tuchel silly. Similarly with Billy Gilmour, Todd wanted to send him out on loan so they could keep him as one for the future, but Tuchel had to explain to him that the player was on his last year of contract and wont sign a new one.
I really hope he stuffs up the DOF appointment with someone he doesn't trust in the end, and starts meddling in things he should leave alone, or better still, break his word to Potter and just carry on trying to do the job himself.
 




Gonzo BHA

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Sep 3, 2004
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BN1
I'm worried about Caicedo, MacAllister and Trossard, all of whom can make the step up to Champions League football. Hopefully he won't be a total ******* and leave our squad well alone.
 


sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,347
Hove
Sanchez and Caicedo would be on their way anyway - it doesn't really matter if they go to Chelsea or elsewhere.

I had had a glimmer of hope that we could get Mac Allister and Trossard to extend contracts, but I think this has now somewhat diminished. Shame. Veltman could also now be less likely to extend. Shame again.

Tony needs eye-watering fees for any that go.
 


HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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BGC Manila
I would actually expect it to be the names not listed here. More a Dunk or Veltman. Their CBs are the area they need some more bodies and have their elder statesmen. Caicedo or Ali Mac after a year or 18 months might enter the bidding though true if continue to improve.
 




Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Brighton
I'm worried about Caicedo, MacAllister and Trossard, all of whom can make the step up to Champions League football. Hopefully he won't be a total ******* and leave our squad well alone.

I really wouldn't worry.

Chelsea have spent a whack and have a number of rather talented players who already fit the mould. I don't think Chelsea fans would be impressed if GP was signing Brighton players over players from other existing CL clubs.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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I really wouldn't worry.

Chelsea have spent a whack and have a number of rather talented players who already fit the mould. I don't think Chelsea fans would be impressed if GP was signing Brighton players over players from other existing CL clubs.
Many Chelsea fans aren't very impressed about Tuchel being replaced with Potter!
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,040
Hove
Sanchez and Caicedo would be on their way anyway - it doesn't really matter if they go to Chelsea or elsewhere.

I had had a glimmer of hope that we could get Mac Allister and Trossard to extend contracts, but I think this has now somewhat diminished. Shame. Veltman could also now be less likely to extend. Shame again.

Tony needs eye-watering fees for any that go.

I agree about Sanchez and Caicedo. The rest, I think, depends on who comes in as the new coach. It might just be the case that they also like the new bloke and, if we stay roughly on track, will be no more likely to jump ship.
 


Jeremiah

John 14 : 6
Mar 15, 2020
2,607
Hove
Seen PLENTY of posts about Graham Potter and Chelsea coming to sign Sanchez, Webster, Trossard, Caicedo and Ali Mac.

What is that based on?

Certainly not on managers usually doing that. Here's all the managers with a previous club (anyone except Arteta) who were in charge in the summer (= not O'Neil, Crofts and Potter) and how they've gone about it.

Jurgen Klopp
Last club: Borussia Dortmund
Players signed from Dortmund: none, not a god damn soul

Pep Guardiola
Last club: Bayern
Players signed from Bayern: not one single little fecker

Thomas Frank
Last club: Bröndby
Players signed from Bröndby: nah

Ralph Hasenhuttl
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: nil

Brendan Rodgers
Last club: Celtic
Players signed from Celtic: no.

David Moyes
Last club: Sunderland
Players signed from Sunderland: nope

Bruno Lage
Last club: Benfica
Players signed from Benfica: yes plenty. Just kidding; zero.

Marco Silva
Last club: Everton
Players signed from Everton: nein

Patrick Vieira
Last club: Nice
Players signed from Nice: yer mum is palace and nice. other than that, no.

Steve Cooper
Last club: Swansea
Players signed from Swansea: they've signed players from every single club except Swansea

Antonio Conte
Last club: Inter
Players signed from Inter: Ivan Perisic

Eddie Howe
Last club: Bournemouth
Players signed from Bournemouth: nicht

Steven Gerrard
Last club: Rangers
Players signed from Rangers: not even as much as a little Goldson. They did sign 16 year old Rory Wilson however.

Frank Lampard
Last club: Chelsea
Players signed from Chelsea: oh ye they'd like that wouldn't they. but no.

Jesse Marsch
Last club: RB Leipzig
Players signed from Leipzig: Tyler Adams

Erik ten Hag
Last club: Ajax
Players signed from Ajax: Lisandro Martinez & Antony

16 managers, 4 players (5 if you count the kid from Rangers). And you're saying GP is going to sign five players from Brighton?

That managers frequently go for players from former clubs is a myth. Don't worry about it.

Yeah but how many of those clubs had an owner who said I won't stand in the way of any player leaving if they want to ? which is an open invitation to have your best players / manager poached.
 




US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
4,840
Cleveland, OH
Is there any upper limit to a release clause, anyone know? If not, TB should be updating certain players' contracts pronto tonto

I think not. In La Liga, where release clauses are apparently mandatory in all player contracts, Benzema has his at €1 billion.
 




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