The Fits
Well-known member
- Jun 29, 2020
- 10,106
He was on the bench today wasn’t he?
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
[Albion] U23s playing Crystal Palace - now!
- Thread starter GT49er
- Start date
He was on the bench today wasn’t he?
- Thread starter
- #22
We've got one of those League Cup thingies we want to lose coming up soon, haven't we?
Difficult to know what to do for the best - he's only 16 and already appears to be a regular choice for the U23s. Perhaps that's the best place for this season at least. It'd be great to briing him in to the first team, but not every very precociously talented young player turns out to be a Rooney or a Trevor Francis. For every one of those, there's loads who never 'make it' at all, like Reuben Noble-Lazarus, the youngest ever player, or never really rise above the lower reaches of professional football (Jake Forster-Caskey or Jake Robinson, for example).
Also have to take into account we're in the PL now - would be much more likely to promote him if we were a division or two lower, like we were when we introduced the Jakes to senior football.
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
To be fair to Palace it's expected for our U-23 squad to beat theirs.
They've added Tyrick Mitchell to the first team squad when he could still be with the U-23's and a quick google suggests they've loaned out Sion Spence to L2 Bristol Rovers and Jacob Montes to Belgium, so it's a very weakened squad. In comparision we've only promoted Roberts, Richards & Sarmiento to the first team squad and loaned out Ostigard, Van Hecke, Molumby, Jenks, Cochrane, Weir, Khadra, Rushworth, Dedonker & Longman.
Hardly a fair comparision at all
They've added Tyrick Mitchell to the first team squad when he could still be with the U-23's and a quick google suggests they've loaned out Sion Spence to L2 Bristol Rovers and Jacob Montes to Belgium, so it's a very weakened squad. In comparision we've only promoted Roberts, Richards & Sarmiento to the first team squad and loaned out Ostigard, Van Hecke, Molumby, Jenks, Cochrane, Weir, Khadra, Rushworth, Dedonker & Longman.
Hardly a fair comparision at all
Last edited:
nwgull
Well-known member
Yes, you’re right, as rare exceptions like Rooney and Owen show. However scoring goals for the U23s does not necessarily indicate you’re good enough, yet. Aaron Connolly tore PL2 a new one in 18/19 and was the player of the season for the entire league.
nwgull
Well-known member
To be fair to Palace it's expected for our U-23 squad to beat theirs.
They've added Tyrick Mitchell to the first team squad when he could still be with the U-23's and a quick google suggests they've loaned out Sion Spence to L2 Bristol Rovers and Jacob Montes to Belgium, so it's a very weakened squad. In comparision we've only promoted Roberts, Richards & Sarmiento to the first team squad and loaned out Ostigard, Van Hecke, Molumby, Jenks, Cochrane, Weir, Khadra, Rushworth, Dedonker & Lookman.
Hardly a fair comparision at all
And Caicedo.
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
There was a few players I wasn't sure whether to include or not - Caicedo and Sima being the main two. Not sure what random rules my brain decided it on to exclude those two but here we are. I'd say it's no pro football before they were here, but I'm not sure if that actually checks out for the whole list (van Hecke maybe?)
Anyway the main point remians - even if they had beaten us toda, the job of a youth team is to get players ready for first team football, and it's clear we're lightyears ahead of them in that regard.
Not quite. 20 man brawl 5 mins before the end could have had more than one red but the Palace player deserved it (and more) for giving the ref the middle finger and refusing to walk, after nearly throttling Albion player. A win against them is a win regardless.
Good to see the Palace fixture still means something to Dicker.
Sheebo
Well-known member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
Hahahahaha great times - and all we’ve heard from the Palace dullards on here is how great their academy is etc etc - they finally get to play in the top league and we put them in their place with most of our youngsters loaned out too - brilliant to shut the trolls up this one.
To be fair to Palace it's expected for our U-23 squad to beat theirs.
They've added Tyrick Mitchell to the first team squad when he could still be with the U-23's and a quick google suggests they've loaned out Sion Spence to L2 Bristol Rovers and Jacob Montes to Belgium, so it's a very weakened squad. In comparision we've only promoted Roberts, Richards & Sarmiento to the first team squad and loaned out Ostigard, Van Hecke, Molumby, Jenks, Cochrane, Weir, Khadra, Rushworth, Dedonker & Longman.
Hardly a fair comparision at all
Aaron Connolly and Tariq Lamptey are under 23s (comfortably)
- Thread starter
- #30
Yes, and he appears to have made it at 16, already.
Sheebo
Well-known member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
Isn’t Mac too and Moder - possibly some others too - Sanchez maybe… Can’t be arsed to look them all up.
- Thread starter
- #32
I don't think so - but there again, I don't know how many over-age players we are allowed to include in the varius competitions (the EFL Trophy, for example, is bloody complicated!)
Sheebo
Well-known member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
Also I think it’s 23 and under like youth football but depends on birthdays etc. I think.
In the U23 PL you can play with three overage outfield players and one goalie.
Sanchez, Lamptey, Cucurella, Connolly, Mac Allister, Mwepu, Moder, Alzate, Roberts and Richards are all U23, though Sanchez was born in late 97 so might count as overage depending on they are doing calender years or not.
nwgull
Well-known member
That meant to say that the senior Premier League is a huge step up from the U23s.
- Thread starter
- #36
Yeh, I think it's down to age on the 1st. of January - but the U23 rules allow Dicker to play as an over-age player, so that is obviously a complication on the absolute date of birth definition. The EFL rophy uses different dates, and is even more complicated! Whether or not they've played 40 or more senior games comes into consideration ...................
- Thread starter
- #37
I think as far as the age categories are concerned (not the EFL Trophy) the first of January is the cut off date.
Yup you are probably right.
Don Tmatter
Well-known member
Juan Albion
Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
To be fair to Palace it's expected for our U-23 squad to beat theirs.
They've added Tyrick Mitchell to the first team squad when he could still be with the U-23's and a quick google suggests they've loaned out Sion Spence to L2 Bristol Rovers and Jacob Montes to Belgium, so it's a very weakened squad. In comparision we've only promoted Roberts, Richards & Sarmiento to the first team squad and loaned out Ostigard, Van Hecke, Molumby, Jenks, Cochrane, Weir, Khadra, Rushworth, Dedonker & Longman.
Hardly a fair comparision at all
But this was a weakened Albion U23 team, shirley? Tolaj or Peupion were rested for the first hour for starters.
And people banging on about sticking Ferguson in the first team - he's not even usually automatic choice for the U23s.