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[Albion] Tuchel announces his first England squad tomorrow, are we expecting any Brighton players to make the cut?..









highflyer

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I'm just not interested in England, and less and less interested in International football generally. So I haven't followed the whole thread

But was fairly impressed by how Tuchel was talking at the press conference I listened to on the radio. Especially his defence and explanations for the choices he knew would be controversiall. And by the contrast with the twitching mess that I remember at the end of his Chelsea time.

Also I am a bit pleased for Dan Burn. He's worked hard for it. The lanky, Saudi-loving, over-celebrating twat.
 


Han Solo

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I'm just not interested in England, and less and less interested in International football generally. So I haven't followed the whole thread

But was fairly impressed by how Tuchel was talking at the press conference I listened to on the radio. Especially his defence and explanations for the choices he knew would be controversiall. And by the contrast with the twitching mess that I remember at the end of his Chelsea time.


Also I am a bit pleased for Dan Burn. He's worked hard for it. The lanky, Saudi-loving, over-celebrating twat.
Yeah, at least can't accuse him of being populist..
 


Randy McNob

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I'm just not interested in England, and less and less interested in International football generally. So I haven't followed the whole thread

But was fairly impressed by how Tuchel was talking at the press conference I listened to on the radio. Especially his defence and explanations for the choices he knew would be controversiall. And by the contrast with the twitching mess that I remember at the end of his Chelsea time.

Also I am a bit pleased for Dan Burn. He's worked hard for it. The lanky, Saudi-loving, over-celebrating twat.
I'll reserve my judgement since we've had our fingers burned in the past, if I recall a not too disimilar 1st press conference with Eriksson and people thinking we had the next Arsene Wenger and the FA pulled off a masterstroke!! History is not on his side
 




JBizzle

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of the 22 outfield players, here are 18 of them. Which of these are "the same tired old players"?

Defenders: Dan Burn (Newcastle), Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace),, Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Myles Lewis-Skelly (Arsenal), Tino Livramento (Newcastle), Jarell Quansah (Liverpool),


Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Morgan Rogers (Aston Villa), Declan Rice (Arsenal).

Forwards: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Dominic Solanke (Tottenham).


As ever with England squads, people ignore that TWENTY SIX players are picked and focus on the 2 or 3 they don't like.

A team of

Pickford
Livramento
Colwill
Guehi
Lewis-Skelly
Rice
Bellingham
Gordon
Kane
Palmer

would hardly be seen as full of tired old players

The turnover of young players coming into the england set up over the last few years has been massive, yet people still have this belief that the squad never changes. I'd argue Guehi, Bellingham and Palmer are key players now. All under 24. Saka would be a key one, 23. Rice is a long standing player now, he's still only 26.

There are around 16 players in this squad who weren't at the last world cup.
That may be so and, for me personally, I'm not singling out players because I dislike them. It's not the case.

It feels tired and old to me, not because of the new players coming in, but because the core of the team is the same. Pickford is not good enough to win a World Cup, Rice has yet to perform consistently well for England, Kane will be 33 at the next World Cup and still leading the line. It's my problem, and it is a perception problem. When I look at this squad, does it excite me? No, but it was never going to because Tuchel's job isn't to excite me now, it's to win a World Cup in 2026.

Even looking at the team you put up there though, is it a good team? Yes. Would it win a World Cup? No. That said, I am interested to see how it evolves and changes over the next 18 months.
 


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Usually I'm not that bothered by England picks, it's the usual merry-go-round, it's usually never that adventurous, but I'll vent my ire about Henderson. Poor choice, should be nowhere near the squad both for playing ability and his shit career choices in recent years. I know most will be dismissive of that and that's fine with me, but his decision to go to Saudi hit hard when he professed to be such a Ally. He can forever do one in my eyes, however irrational that seems to others 😂
 


















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Saying there are some controversial picks is maybe explained by the fact that Tuchel has been given an 18 month contract and the World Cup is next year. He is hardly going to be looking further than that. In the unlikely event he is successful he will have plenty of time to bring in other players.
 






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sussex_guy2k2

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Ability wise, Dan Burn was probably the worst player we’ve had in our Premier League era. Him getting a call up at the age of 32 is bizarre.

I personally don’t like the England team anymore so it’s a shame they’re not playing anyone good as it would have been entertaining to see Burn get destroyed.
What kind of baseless nonsense is this?
 


Han Solo

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The only point in him being in the squad is if he can do it against France or Brazil.
Well, it appears thay way? He is one of very few English defenders playing regular football in a CL-challenging team in one of the best leagues.

Thomas Tuchel watched some games and thought "I want Dan Burn instead of Luke Shaw and/or Harry Maguire" and I'm not sure why you have something against it. Its not like there's a bunch of world class English left-backs and LCBs hanging around just waiting for the chance.

I've been screaming for Burn & Webster to get called up for the last four or five years and excited to see Burn show how severly underrated he's been by many people. He is a versatile good Premier League defender who is always at his best in the big games.

Hopefully Adam gets the chance next time around - Quansah and Colwill are very promising but certainly under threat in the short term.
 




sussex_guy2k2

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Well, it appears thay way? He is one of very few English defenders playing regular football in a CL-challenging team in one of the best leagues.

Thomas Tuchel watched some games and thought "I want Dan Burn instead of Luke Shaw and/or Harry Maguire" and I'm not sure why you have something against it. Its not like there's a bunch of world class English left-backs and LCBs hanging around just waiting for the chance.

I've been screaming for Burn & Webster to get called up for the last four or five years and excited to see Burn show how severly underrated he's been by many people. He is a versatile good Premier League defender who is always at his best in the big games.

Hopefully Adam gets the chance next time around - Quansah and Colwill are very promising but certainly under threat in the short term.
It’s really simple. If you’re good enough to play regularly for a Premier League team, you can play for England. Lower Prem players (which Burn is not) may well struggle if they got to a semi final or final, but playing the Latvias of this world is not harder than playing a Premier League game.

It’s the reason I found Southgate’s desire not to call up a proper left back in the summer utterly baffling when there was a few of them playing in the league last year.
 




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