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[portlock seagull]

Well I just did see if I could find anything like that based on your post, but there isn't anything. Not sure I should have to look around for the examples anyway since you made the claim. The only thing close to that is the cars following the Biden bus which has been covered for the last couple of days, and I'm sorry but I don't really see that as being much more than people wanting to show their support for their candidate with their flags. Annoying for Biden and his bus, but that falls well below the level of intimidation. If Biden supporters followed a Trump bus with thier Biden flags would you condemn it?

Like I said, I would always oppose harrasment and intimidation, especially towards voters during an election, but it sounds to me like you've got some assumptions (like most people) about Trump supporters which aren't really fair. They certainly might not be everyones cup of tea, but they aren't marauding thugs either, they are just ordinary voters (close to half of the (voting) population) who are pretty enthusiastic for their candidate.

There is an ocean of such stuff, from quality sources like the BBC, for you to go and read or watch. You are just lazy or inept if you can’t find any. Besides, I can’t believe you’re at all interested really because anyone with a passing interest must have watched or read at least one such article or documentary over the past 4 weeks alone. Never mind 4 years.

 

[dingodan]

There is an ocean of such stuff, from quality sources like the BBC, for you to go and read or watch. You are just lazy or inept if you can’t find any. Besides, I can’t believe you’re at all interested really because anyone with a passing interest must have watched or read at least one such article or documentary over the past 4 weeks alone. Never mind 4 years.

Ok well, I tried to have a civil discussion with you. I am open to what you have to say, as long as you can justify it. I'm not lazy or inept, I just can't prove a negative can I. You said that what you had read was "Very interesting if not a little disturbing", I would have thought you could offer up an example.

Telling me there is an ocean of stuff, while I can't find any, doesn't convince me that what you are saying is true. It convinces me that what you are saying isn't true, and if you didn't know it before this conversation, you probably know it now. It's just a shame you don't have the humility to admit it.

 

[portlock seagull]

You are making the claim, so justify it.

I have looked for examples of voter intimidation by Trump supporters. But I haven't found any. Moreover I have been paying attention, and I am fairly confident if there were cases of that happening it would be a story big enough and reported on enough that we would all have heard about it, I wouldn't have to ask.

I am perfectly comfortable with finding out that this has happened somewhere, and condemning it if it has. My question to you is, are you comfortable with finding out that it hasn't happened and acknowledging that? There seems to be a strong idea in the U.S. that it is happening, despite no justification that I can find. When people believe and repeat that, it is those people who are risking raising tensions and causing violence. It's irresponsible, and it's Trumps opponents, not supporters, who are doing that.

Yes, It has been a widely covered. No, you clearly haven’t been paying attention. No, I’m not going down the prove it path. Because no, I haven’t made a list of the programmes and articles just in case you popped up...FFS, you’re an intelligent adult, go and scan through the quality journo US papers, magazines and publications, BBC etc in recent weeks you lazy sod. It’ll give you a break from Tik Toc. But beware, if you’re a Trump supporter, you’ll be blind to all of it. Which maybe the problem here. Anyway, I’m done arguing with anyone who thinks Biden might make a worse president than Trump so that’s the last of my energy on this matter.

 

[Klaas]

Why wouldn't it be a valid take?

So link us to all the instances to where it was the Republican base rioting, looting, destroying public and private property.

There must be 4 years of example after example of cases you can cite.

The actual, real life President of the United Sates, has, over the last 4 years, refused to condemn white supremacists and violent conspiracy theorists who support him. Not only that, he has, even in the face of murder, had words of praise for them. He's currently goading these very same supporters to 'watch' the election, an election he has spent most of his term trying to undermine the integrity of. And you talk about 'democrats' rioting.

It's kind of comical, for all your boasting about how well informed you are, all you offer is the basic Trump playbook. I also notice that you hate all the very same people Q anon types do. You're not....you're not, Q are you??

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Biden has to win to avoid destructive widespread riots.

Who ever wins means riots

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

The actual, real life President of the United Sates, has, over the last 4 years, refused to condemn white supremacists and violent conspiracy theorists who support him.

Fact check says you're wrong.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/

BBC says you're wrong even.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54381500

Gosh that was too easy.

Not only that, he has, even in the face of murder, had words of praise for them. He's currently goading these very same supporters to 'watch' the election, an election he has spent most of his term trying to undermine the integrity of. And you talk about 'democrats' rioting.

We can talk about both of them rioting can we not?

As present most of the rioting and destruction has come from one side. If this changes after the election we can then compare the two sets of supporters again.

It's kind of comical, for all your boasting about how well informed you are, all you offer is the basic Trump playbook. I also notice that you hate all the very same people Q anon types do. You're not....you're not, Q are you??

It's probably more comical that your opening statement is discredited with a few links that take 30 seconds to find.

That sums up your grasp of being informed.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Who ever wins means riots

Possibly.

Still think with the Democrat base having had four years of being triggered and losing their collective minds they are more likely to riot on a large scale over the US.

They have been practising for four years to build up their willingness to go down that path. Far better organised.

If sections of the Republican base hit back it won't be riots and destruction of private or public property. They will just **** up Democrats with big mouths in their face on a more personal level. Which is a potentially deadly situation.

As the saying goes "Don't poke the Bear".

 

[Klaas]

Fact check says you're wrong.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/

BBC says you're wrong even.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54381500

Gosh that was too easy.



We can talk about both of them rioting can we not?

As present most of the rioting and destruction has come from one side. If this changes after the election we can then compare the two sets of supporters again.



It's probably more comical that your opening statement is discredited with a few links that take 30 seconds to find.

That sums up your grasp of being informed.

So, he condemns them AFTER being asked directly/speaking immediately after the event. I wonder why he could have possibly done that instead of answering a simple question at the time, or when making a speech in response to fatal violence. I'm aware of him offering condemnations, he just doesn't do so when people are really watching. Can't alienate his base.
Do you condemn white supremacists? erm well, I'll get back to you later on that one. I mean, really? How difficult a question is that? Stir the pot, stand back.

I was just looking back at the Charlottesville conversation we were having on here. Your comments were as predictable as always, including the Soros trope.

 

[sydney]

Your telling me something I already posted and calling me clueless? I think when you keep posting 'wake up' it might be a good idea to take your own advice, and stop posting when you are half asleep.

i meant you are clueless in your assumption of kn owing what kind of person a i am and my political leanings .....that is where you are clueless , for clarity like.

now .....carry on

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Possibly.

Still think with the Democrat base having had four years of being triggered and losing their collective minds they are more likely to riot on a large scale over the US.

They have been practising for four years to build up their willingness to go down that path. Far better organised.

If sections of the Republican base hit back it won't be riots and destruction of private or public property. They will just **** up Democrats with big mouths in their face on a more personal level. Which is a potentially deadly situation.

As the saying goes "Don't poke the Bear".

I agree they are fair better organised, but I can see random flair ups from the republican supporters.

It’s actually the main reason they haven’t opened the boarder yet.

What a mess

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

So, he condemns them AFTER being asked directly/speaking immediately after the event. I wonder why he could have possibly done that instead of answering a simple question at the time, or when making a speech in response to fatal violence. I'm aware of him offering condemnations, he just doesn't do so when people are really watching. Can't alienate his base.
Do you condemn white supremacists? erm well, I'll get back to you later on that one. I mean, really? How difficult a question is that? Stir the pot, stand back.

I was just looking back at the Charlottesville conversation we were having on here. Your comments were as predictable as always.

I always found it a stupid question to be honest. Lacking any kind of critical thinking.

Would make zero sense to think he's a white supremacist when his senior advisor is a Jewish family member.

If you're going to throw accusations out there labelling him something like a Zionist is probably more applicable than a white supremacist.

Why would a WS give so much power to a Jew when they hate them as much as any other group of people?

If you're so concerned on people not condemning things you'd be equally dismayed at the Democrats then.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I agree they are fair better organised, but I can see random flair ups from the republican supporters.

It’s actually the main reason they haven’t opened the boarder yet.

What a mess

The worry is the very small but deadly element in the Republican base fringes.

If they get confronted or challenged with any kind of threat they could respond in a fatal way.

So hopefully Biden wins easily and people stay out of those people's faces and not antagonise.

 

[Klaas]

I always found it a stupid question to be honest. Lacking any kind of critical thinking.

And? It requires a very simple answer.
Do you condemn white supremacists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Islamist terrorists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Palace fans? Yes, I do.
etc.

It's not hard.

 

[Klaas]

i meant you are clueless in your assumption of kn owing what kind of person a i am and my political leanings .....that is where you are clueless , for clarity like.

now .....carry on

Considering the amount of times you've made assumptions about me, that is rich. I'm just trying to keep track of what it is you're saying from post to post. Sometimes from the beginning of one post, to the end of the same post.

now .....don't carry on

 

[lasvegan]

And? It requires a very simple answer.
Do you condemn white supremacists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Islamist terrorists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Palace fans? Yes, I do.
etc.

It's not hard.

Asked and answered, dozens of times over the last 4 years. Yes, he condemns it.

Why keep asking? It’s a stupid question.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

And? It requires a very simple answer.
Do you condemn white supremacists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Islamist terrorists? Yes, I do.
Do you condemn Palace fans? Yes, I do.
etc.

It's not hard.

Well obviously for politicians it is. They all want to play the field.

This is Biden:

In Tuesday night’s presidential debate in Cleveland, former Vice President Joe Biden said that violence is never “appropriate” but he did not condemn people who have been perpetrating it in cities across America. Taking the opportunity to address directly the Antifa movement, Mr. Biden simply described its lack of centralized structure.

None of them have the balls to outright do it unless they are pressed to do it. They'll do some politician speak or quickly gloss over it in the hope it goes away.

 

[lasvegan]

Businesses across the nation getting ready for the white supremacist, neo-Nazi onslaught...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/dc-businesses-board-up-windows-election-day-unrest

 

[sydney]

Considering the amount of times you've made assumptions about me, that is rich. I'm just trying to keep track of what it is you're saying from post to post. Sometimes from the beginning of one post, to the end of the same post.

now .....don't carry on

i have said from the start ...America is a mad house , the only assumption i have made about you is that you live a very sheltered life , you have not offered anything that would cause me to change that view.

 

[Klaas]

the only assumption i have made about you is that you live a very sheltered life

oh, "only" that.

 

[vegster]

The worry is the very small but deadly element in the Republican base fringes.

If they get confronted or challenged with any kind of threat they could respond in a fatal way.

So hopefully Biden wins easily and people stay out of those people's faces and not antagonise.

Blimey TB. someone has hacked your account!