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[Gritt23]

Did Trumpski just sell out Ukraine to his boss Putin ?

Let's hear the full phone call(s).

https://twitter.com/johnastoehr/status/1179105516523532289?s=19

Yep, and really, who is surprised.

He's bribed Ukraine to do exactly what he wants. Hand over parts of their country to Russia, and to do some digging on Biden so that Trump 2020 can be about digging dirt on his opponent, just as it was last time.

He needs to publish the conversation with Ukraine (if he can) or this is Watergate all over again, where the cover-up became the issue that took him down, rather than what he was actually covering up.

 

[carlzeiss]

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[Blue Valkyrie]

20 minutes missing from the call transcript.

We need the full release now to confirm or rule out whether Trumpski handed Donetsk and Luhansk to his boss and Russia.

Serious stuff if true, enough to bring down a President.

An interesting week ahead.

 

[CHAPPERS]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/trump-ukraine-republican.html

 

[carlzeiss]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/opinion/trump-ukraine-republican.html

Interesting article . I'm struggling to understand though how Trump would be helped by a media that is 99% against him .


What’s at stake isn’t just Biden’s political future. It’s how much Trump can erode the political salience of reality, and how much the media helps him.

 

[Stat Brother]

Trump now also being investigated as to whether his hotels have mysteriously been on the receiving end of wholesale block bookings with no guests showing, or not.

 

[Klaas]

This should tip anyone in the states undecided about Trump over the edge.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ese-french-wine-with-25-tariffs-idUSKBN1WH2G7

 

[bhafc99]

I think he might - finally - have shot himself in both feet.

News summary just released below.

This is kind of like Nixon ordering the Watergate break-in on live TV.



“Donald Trump has called for Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, even as Trump is the subject of an impeachment inquiry for... pushing Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

In an extraordinary press conference outside the White House – aired on cable news and attended by multiple journalists – Trump said China should investigate the Bidens, and suggested he may ask the country to do so.

Trump also said the Ukraine government should start a “major investigation” into the Bidens, “if they were honest about it”.

As a reminder: there is no evidence that Joe or Hunter Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine. Or in China.

Trump was asked what he thought Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskiy – who Trump was recorded pressuring to investigate the Bidens – should do.

“If they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens,” Trump said when asked what he wanted Ukrainepresident Volodymyr Zelensky to do.

“I would say President Zelenskiy, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens.”

Trump then discussed his trade war with China, before adding:

“China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened in Ukraine.”

Trump did not explain what he meant by “what happened in China”. Again: there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by the Bidens.

Trump was then asked if he had requested President Xi of China to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden.

“I haven’t but it’s certainly something we can start thinking about,” Trump said.


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[Juan Albion]

I think he might - finally - have shot himself in both feet.

News summary just released below.

This is kind of like Nixon ordering the Watergate break-in on live TV.



“Donald Trump has called for Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, even as Trump is the subject of an impeachment inquiry for... pushing Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

In an extraordinary press conference outside the White House – aired on cable news and attended by multiple journalists – Trump said China should investigate the Bidens, and suggested he may ask the country to do so.

Trump also said the Ukraine government should start a “major investigation” into the Bidens, “if they were honest about it”.

As a reminder: there is no evidence that Joe or Hunter Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine. Or in China.

Trump was asked what he thought Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskiy – who Trump was recorded pressuring to investigate the Bidens – should do.

“If they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens,” Trump said when asked what he wanted Ukrainepresident Volodymyr Zelensky to do.

“I would say President Zelenskiy, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens.”

Trump then discussed his trade war with China, before adding:

“China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened in Ukraine.”

Trump did not explain what he meant by “what happened in China”. Again: there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by the Bidens.

Trump was then asked if he had requested President Xi of China to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden.

“I haven’t but it’s certainly something we can start thinking about,” Trump said.


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Sadly his supporters won't even see anything wrong with it.

 

[A1X]

This would finish off pretty much any president to this point. Unfortunately so would most of the other stuff which has happened in the last three years.

 

[knocky1]

Sadly his supporters won't even see anything wrong with it.

...and most of the hard core won’t be affected by today’s 25% tariff on parmigiano or Scottish single malt whisky. Great future trade partner.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

It's easy to see CNN's clickbait audience in full in threads like this.

Zero critical thinking or looking for the actual facts.

Just need some clickbait to fuel the derangement syndrome.

I mean if this is such a serious issue you'd think the Democrats like Pelosi wouldn't take a few weeks off just as she launches it...

 

[Juan Albion]

It's easy to see CNN's clickbait audience in full in threads like this.

Zero critical thinking or looking for the actual facts.

Just need some clickbait to fuel the derangement syndrome.

I mean if this is such a serious issue you'd think the Democrats like Pelosi wouldn't take a few weeks off just as she launches it...

I guess you just don't get it. Just like him.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I guess you just don't get it. Just like him.

No I do get it.

I watch sources like the Hill and Jimmy Dore. Unbiased sources that provide platforms for proper reporters.

Unlike those utter jokes CNN, MSNBC etc

Strange how these liberal sources I get my information from all laugh at the likes of CNN as they point out their lies and garbage paid narratives time and time again.

I provided a link to an actual CiA whistle blower who dismantles all this latest whistle blower bullshit. Yet I doubt any of the deranged syndrome types will bother to give it a watch.

They'll just listen to dipshits like Maddow and Colbert for their "news".

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This would finish off pretty much any president to this point. Unfortunately so would most of the other stuff which has happened in the last three years.

And guess what? We have our own, slightly posher, version now in office. But ours has charm and humour as well as no shame. Even I applauded the Boris speech yesterday and laughed at his jokes. What did they used to say about the Devil and tunes?

 

[bhafc99]

No I do get it.

I watch sources like the Hill and Jimmy Dore. Unbiased sources that provide platforms for proper reporters.

Unlike those utter jokes CNN, MSNBC etc

Strange how these liberal sources I get my information from all laugh at the likes of CNN as they point out their lies and garbage paid narratives time and time again.

I provided a link to an actual CiA whistle blower who dismantles all this latest whistle blower bullshit. Yet I doubt any of the deranged syndrome types will bother to give it a watch.

They'll just listen to dipshits like Maddow and Colbert for their "news".

I watched a source called "Donald Trump" yesterday. He said he wanted the leaders of Ukraine and China to find dirt on his political opponents for him. Can you please explain to me how that is "a liberal biased source"?

 

[Gwylan]

Sadly his supporters won't even see anything wrong with it.

I saw a poll a couple of days ago that showed 40% of Republicans believed that Trump didn't even mention Biden in his call to Zelensky. This is despite the fact that the WH's own transcript showed that he did.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." Indeed.

 

[beorhthelm]

It's easy to see CNN's clickbait audience in full in threads like this. .

might be better accusation on US based forums?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I watched a source called "Donald Trump" yesterday. He said he wanted the leaders of Ukraine and China to find dirt on his political opponents for him. Can you please explain to me how that is "a liberal biased source"?

This.

 

[clapham_gull]

No I do get it.

I watch sources like the Hill and Jimmy Dore. Unbiased sources that provide platforms for proper reporters.

Unlike those utter jokes CNN, MSNBC etc

Strange how these liberal sources I get my information from all laugh at the likes of CNN as they point out their lies and garbage paid narratives time and time again.

I provided a link to an actual CiA whistle blower who dismantles all this latest whistle blower bullshit. Yet I doubt any of the deranged syndrome types will bother to give it a watch.

They'll just listen to dipshits like Maddow and Colbert for their "news".

When did the all the conspiracy theorists become so right wing again ?