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LlcoolJ

LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
Blue Valkyrie said:
Ah, the old Putin and Trump are crossing the road in front of your car dilemma.

Do you floor the accelerator or slam on the anchors ? ???
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Firstly, getting rid of Trump could well mean Pence as president. That's too scary to think about. Secondly, I've got a new car and I really love it.

Can you do it please?
 




Insel affe

Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,335
Brighton factually.....
LlcoolJ said:
Firstly, getting rid of Trump could well mean Pence as president. That's too scary to think about.
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Not wrong.

Pence signed LGBTQ discrimination into law.
Many states have taken to passing Religious Freedom Restoration Acts (RFRA), but Indiana's RFRA is particularly egregious. The language in the bill allows for any businesses to discriminate against LQBTQ individuals using religion as a defense, despite existing civil rights protections.

Pence supported a bill that would require women who sought abortion services to pay for a funeral for their unborn fetus.
An anti-abortion bill that Pence signed earlier this year put into places numerous restrictions on women's access to reproductive healthcare (it has since been blocked by a federal judge). The legislation stipulates that doctors must show women who want an abortion an ultrasound of the fetus, it mandates that abortion clinics have admitting privileges—an expensive and needless regulatory burden that causes a lot of clinics to shut down—and bars women from getting an abortion in cases of known fetal disability. But worst of all, it requires that women would have to get their fetuses cremated or buried, a stipulation with no justification whatsoever—other than to shame women who need abortion care.

Pence threatened to increase penalties for low-level drug offenders.
Nearly everyone agrees that the war on drugs has been a politically motivated disaster that has fueled the disproportionate incarceration of black people—except for Mike Pence. Many states in the US are gradually moving toward weed legalization and, at least, decriminalization. But in 2013, as the governor of Indiana, Pence wanted to broaden felony charges for marijuana possession and increase prison sentences. Some say that Pence was financially motivated to increase the criminalization of drug offenses, thanks to his relationship with a private prison company, GEO Group. This year, he reinstated mandatory minimums for drug crimes.

Pence co-sponsored a bill that would "redefine rape."
Apparently, the Hyde Amendment wasn't severe enough for him. As a congressman in 2011, Mike Pence wanted to make sure that no federal funding would ever go toward helping women access abortion care. In order to do so, he supported a bill that defined rape as "forcible rape," among other extreme provisions. Advocates immediately noted this language—let alone the entire bill if it was to pass—was a backwards and dangerous thing for women.
"It speaks to a distinction between rape where there must be some element of force in order to rise to the standard, and rape where there is not," Steph Sterling, the director of government relations for the National Women's Law Center, told the Washington Post. "The concern here is that it takes us back to a time where just saying no was not enough.

Pence voted against equal pay for women.
While the Lilly Ledbetter Act passed in spite of him, Mike Pence wanted to deny women the ability file pay discrimination lawsuits after "180 days of learning of the discrimination.

Trump and Pence at a conference the conversation turned to gay rights, Trump motioned toward Pence and joked, “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them al!”
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
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Hail to the Chief!
 


vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
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Blue Valkyrie

Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
CHAPPERS said:
Judging by his tweeting this morning, he's pretty worried about something dropping today.
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After Cohen's testimony Don Trump Junior is pretty much going to get indicted for lying to congress.

Getting closer to the King Pin himself.
 




vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Papa Lazarou said:
So, is he lying about lying, or just lying, or did he lie originally?
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Right..... I think Cohen lied originally, now the President says he is lying now by saying he lied. So Mr Trump was fine while Cohen was telling the initial lies but not happy now. Mr Trump also called him a "weak person " …. which is kind of odd as Mr Trump is a self appointed, excellent judge of character yet he employed him as his personal lawyer for 10 years ?
 


Mellotron

Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Why is everyone NOT talking about Hillary?!?!?
 










McTavish

McTavish

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2014
1,587
vegster said:
…. which is kind of odd as Mr Trump is a self appointed, excellent judge of character yet he employed him as his personal lawyer for 10 years ?
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Trump has explained this - Cohen did a favour for him many years ago. Seems entirely reasonable and plausible to me.
 


Mellotron

Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
The_Viper said:
It's not difficult at all, believe whatever makes Trump the biggest villain because Orange Man Bad.
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You're STILL going with this? 33 indictments now, numerous guilty pleas, and now very close to proof of Treason - Trump has actually admitted to it on Twitter today, he's that ****ing stupid. So all these people pleading guilty and going to jail, they're doing it for a joke?

Trump was secretly arranging a huge deal with a country that had just waged an act of cyberwar on the US. I don't think you even begin to understand how serious this is.
 
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