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Perhaps you should as well.
The fact you refer to him by his first name and describe him as an all round do-gooder beggars belief.
Razzoo
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Did you follow the trial at all?
- Apr 5, 2014
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What have you been putting on those pizzas ?
Tyrone Biggums
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This is the most detailed break down of what happened.
True.
Thunder Bolt
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Isn’t life strange? In the 1940s Antifa were the good guys.
I've yet to understand why anti fascists are labelled as such and demonised but it doesn't affect me at the end of the day so
Dick Swiveller
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I've yet to understand why anti fascists are labelled as such and demonised but it doesn't affect me at the end of the day so
Anti fascist is a good thing. Using the term to act like a dick (and pretty much like the people you claim to despise), not so much.
See also woke. I am struggling how to see how this definition made the word become an insult.
woke
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verb
past of wake1.
adjectiveINFORMAL•US
alert to injustice in society, especially racism.
"we need to stay angry, and stay woke"
vegster
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Interesting article here on the how and why of kyle Rittenhouse's aquital...... The link and some extracts.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/19/kyle-rittenhouse-conviction-america-white-privilege
"Neither side disagreed that the 18-year-old intended to shoot Anthony M Huber, Joseph Rosenbaum and Gaige Grosskreutz. They don’t disagree that the Smith & Wesson M&P 15 is a dangerous weapon. However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he travelled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine."
"A belief may be reasonable even though mistaken,” the jury instructions read. “In determining whether the defendant’s beliefs were reasonable, the standard is what a person of ordinate intelligence and prudence would have believed in the defendant’s position.”
" Researchers have found that Americans perceive Black men as larger, stronger and more threatening than white men the same size. A 2016 paper found that Black boys are perceived as older and “less innocent” by police officers. Black girls as young as five years old are viewed as older, less innocent and more aggressive than white girls. In real life, 35% of gang members are Black, but in Hollywood, 65% of the roles described as “gangsters” are played by Black actors.
The idea of the “scary Black person” manifests itself in every segment of the US criminal justice system. It’s why police are more likely to stop Black drivers, even though – according to the largest analysis of police data in the history of the world – white drivers are more likely to be in possession of illegal contraband. It’s why unarmed Black people are killed by cops at three times the rate of whites, in spite of the fact that most on-duty police fatalities are committed by white men. After controlling for factors that include education, weapon possession and prior criminal history, the US sentencing commission found that federal judges sentence Black men to prison terms that are, on average, 20% longer than white men with similar circumstances.
It’s why 5,000 people responded to Mathewson’s Facebook call-to-arms. It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officers from the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/19/kyle-rittenhouse-conviction-america-white-privilege
"Neither side disagreed that the 18-year-old intended to shoot Anthony M Huber, Joseph Rosenbaum and Gaige Grosskreutz. They don’t disagree that the Smith & Wesson M&P 15 is a dangerous weapon. However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he travelled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine."
"A belief may be reasonable even though mistaken,” the jury instructions read. “In determining whether the defendant’s beliefs were reasonable, the standard is what a person of ordinate intelligence and prudence would have believed in the defendant’s position.”
" Researchers have found that Americans perceive Black men as larger, stronger and more threatening than white men the same size. A 2016 paper found that Black boys are perceived as older and “less innocent” by police officers. Black girls as young as five years old are viewed as older, less innocent and more aggressive than white girls. In real life, 35% of gang members are Black, but in Hollywood, 65% of the roles described as “gangsters” are played by Black actors.
The idea of the “scary Black person” manifests itself in every segment of the US criminal justice system. It’s why police are more likely to stop Black drivers, even though – according to the largest analysis of police data in the history of the world – white drivers are more likely to be in possession of illegal contraband. It’s why unarmed Black people are killed by cops at three times the rate of whites, in spite of the fact that most on-duty police fatalities are committed by white men. After controlling for factors that include education, weapon possession and prior criminal history, the US sentencing commission found that federal judges sentence Black men to prison terms that are, on average, 20% longer than white men with similar circumstances.
It’s why 5,000 people responded to Mathewson’s Facebook call-to-arms. It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officers from the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary."
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The_Viper
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I've yet to understand why anti fascists are labelled as such and demonised but it doesn't affect me at the end of the day so
Anti-Fascism is absolutely a good thing, and nobody in their right mind would consider it bad. HOWEVER to answer your question its the same as everything that gets co-opted by nutjobs. A lot of women are hesitant to call themselves a feminist, because of the loudest minority who have taken over that label in the last few years, even though the majority of people are absolutely feminists, there is a small group of loud and crazy idiots that use that label as a weapon so much that others distance themselves from it. Somehow the media have made the ****ing OK sign a symbol of white supremacy, because they fed into the loud minority co-opting it, and now people can lose their jobs by making that sign on TV interviews without even knowing it means something different to some people (ironically, this tends to happen because members of Antifa hunt them down online and harass them and their place of work until they're sacked). Antifa is the exact same thing, a group of people have co-opted anti-fascism and utilised it as an excuse to destroy property, burn down small businesses, act violently and dangerously causing harm to innocents in the midst of their 'protests' and beating the ever living shit out of anyone even remotely looking like they might disagree. It's not hard to see why people aren't rushing to associate themselves with these people.
Anti-Fascism = Good
The people who identify as Antifa = Mostly Bad
Dick Swiveller
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https://wset.com/news/nation-world/...oks-vaun-mayes-facebook-live-kyle-rittenhouse
BLM supporter, 'militant' says parade killings might be beginning of 'the revolution
39-year-old Darrell Brooks, a black man, is suspected of being behind the wheel of the SUV which barreled through the parade. He is due to appear in court on Tuesday.
Five people were killed and almost 50 were injured by the SUV. Authorities have yet to release any information which points to a clear motivation for the violence.
Vaun Mayes, who describes himself in his Twitter bio as a community activist, battle rapper, militant, and tattoo artist, among other titles, said on a Facebook Live on Monday "it sounds possible that the revolution has started in Wisconsin. It started with this Christmas parade."
BLM supporter, 'militant' says parade killings might be beginning of 'the revolution
39-year-old Darrell Brooks, a black man, is suspected of being behind the wheel of the SUV which barreled through the parade. He is due to appear in court on Tuesday.
Five people were killed and almost 50 were injured by the SUV. Authorities have yet to release any information which points to a clear motivation for the violence.
Vaun Mayes, who describes himself in his Twitter bio as a community activist, battle rapper, militant, and tattoo artist, among other titles, said on a Facebook Live on Monday "it sounds possible that the revolution has started in Wisconsin. It started with this Christmas parade."
Boo! Black lives don't matter. Fact.
Man's a nutter.
I think it's a bit scummy posting what you did, there. Did you post anything showing how much the white supremacist who killed that labour MP, Jo Cox, loves England and the dear old queen?
No.
You didn't.
Black lives matter, taking the knee, the meme that has been around for many years and has gained momentum in the last 18 months = absolutely good
The weird American fairly recently created organization 'Black Lives Matter' = Mostly Bad
But we have clowns on NSC like Das Reich who pretend both these pairs of different things are the same. A trope shamefully propagated this evening by [MENTION=13923]carlzeiss[/MENTION], who really ought to know better
So we’re judging an entire movement and community because one member shoots their mouth off?
Tyrone Biggums
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Well some were, a large % not.
The Red Army may have been anti-fascist but in no way were they the good guys.
Weststander
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18 months on, three murderers, a white lynch mob, have just been convicted of murder and other offences in Georgia.
There were no burglaries that evening, black persons hadn’t trespassed property.
Well done to that jury. These racists will hopefully live out all their days in prison cells.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59411030
A former district attorney was also indicted for violating her oath and obstructing a police officer: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/ahmaud-arbery-jackie-johnson-indicted/index.html
Weststander
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Klansman at heart?
I saw that it took over 2 months for a proper investigation to take place, even the Trump’s put their two cents worth in during that time, on the side of Ahmaud Arbery!
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