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[Weststander]

“Incredible” everything, including the death and new cases tolls. Well done Donald.

 

[LamieRobertson]

That didn’t go to plan. A scared (of Trump) CDC boss, hung out to dry, for telling the truth to a newspaper.

Not sure we’ll see him ever again.

In general, Trump should let the scientists talk about the virus itself, as they do in Downing Street daily conferences. Comes across as an idiot.

You see that the guy tried to escape from the podium about three times but Trump kept ushering him back

 

[Weststander]

Trump speaking warmly of Martin Luther King. Liar.

 

[LlcoolJ]

You see that the guy tried to escape from the podium about three times but Trump kept ushering him back

To try to get him to say that he didn't say what he said. Although he said it.

"Fake news".

It's complete insanity.

 

[Weststander]

To try to get him to say that he didn't say what he said. Although he said it.

"Fake news".

It's complete insanity.

Credit to the CDC scientist (nervously) repeating his truth from the day before, tonight in a career ending statement.

It’d be hilarious if he was dragged out again tomorrow night, Trump going for third time lucky.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Still think that if I was in a Christopher Walken in The Dead Zone situation, I'd take Pence out instead of the mad orange tit.

Trump will be hoisted by his own narcissism eventually. And he's also too greedy and self centred to really **** the world up.

Pence is a scary, religious psychopath. A genuinely worrying man.

 

[Weststander]

Still think that if I was in a Christopher Walken in The Dead Zone situation, I'd take Pence out instead of the mad orange tit.

Trump will be hoisted by his own narcissism eventually. And he's also too greedy and self centred to really **** the world up.

Pence is a scary, religious psychopath. A genuinely worrying man.

Jabba the Hutt is too easy a target.

 

[Jim D]

To try to get him to say that he didn't say what he said. Although he said it.

"Fake news".

It's complete insanity.

He's obviously heard about that guy from the Foreign Office who issued a retraction after making an inflammatory statement and wants him to do the same.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Kinky is right.

I'll hazard a guess most of us are viewing the actions on these predominately white middle aged American's through the prism of our own lens.


We get furloughed.
They get sacked.
We get a 80/90% wage promise.
They get unemployment benefit.
We get the NHS
They just lost their health insurance.
We get a fairly united voice across the media
They get entry level vitriol, from all sides.
We get a bumbling oaf who becomes camera shy.
They don't get so lucky.


Again all my own subjective work but American's just don't seem to do 'one nation' thinking, unless their anthem is playing.
I'm not seeing much, right now, behind The Star Spangled Banner and a flag fluttering in the wind, that would have me clutching my chest and welling up.

It's every man for himself, survival of the fittest.

If he was a sole trader or a limited company (or US version), then the equivalent over here doesn't get furloughed or 80/90% salary. There are plenty of people in the equivalent position to that guy over here who aren't taking to the streets protesting...

Walmart is probably open because it sells hundred of products than just wine, which isn't – despite what people are saying/thinking – an essential item.

I get what you're saying and I'm normally pretty good at looking at things from the other point of view, but I still see no excuse for that guy's actions...

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Trump has never heared of the federal expert in charge of developing and distributing a vaccine now that he has been apparently pushed out after disagreeing with Trump's opinions.

 

[Stat Brother]

If he was a sole trader or a limited company (or US version), then the equivalent over here doesn't get furloughed or 80/90% salary. There are plenty of people in the equivalent position to that guy over here who aren't taking to the streets protesting...

Walmart is probably open because it sells hundred of products than just wine, which isn't – despite what people are saying/thinking – an essential item.

I get what you're saying and I'm normally pretty good at looking at things from the other point of view, but I still see no excuse for that guy's actions...

After some thought I guess what I'm saying is:-

America doesn't seem to have anything in place beyond work, work and then work more.

I'm beginning to think it's become easy for a gun toting vocal few to attract support from similar people who have had everything pulled out from underneath them.

Whereas we're more likely to see protests when the government claps its hands and says:-

'come on everybody back to work'

ONE MORE WEEK
ONE MORE WEEK.

 

[Stat Brother]

Jordan is/was a Daily Show correspondent.

That should be your go to place for incisive political comedy.
Obviously John Oliver is the award winning gold standard graduate of the show.

But along with Jordan you've also got the likes of Samantha B, her husband who's name escapes me (he's nuts and very funny), Stephen Colbert, Rob Riggle, although I don't know if he's doing any political stuff ATM.

Jason Jones


What a relief it is when you finally remember something you didn't know you were thinking about.

 

[Stat Brother]

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[Weststander]

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Keeping out those stinky Canadians and Mexicans in lockdown, doesn’t seem to be working.

 

[vegster]

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The US has a covid-19 mortality rate of just over 5%, I know not everyone will catch it but, the US has a population of 323 Million people, scary. Even scarier to be talking of lifting the lockdown and " opening the US up again "...

 

[Barrow Boy]

I don't usually get involved with or comment on political threads but I've been watching CNN most nights for the pure comedy and unbelievable performances of Trump and a lot of the crazies over there, but this interview with the Mayor of Las Vegas last night took it to a whole new level of madness. Apologies if someone has already posted it.

 

[highflyer]

The US has a covid-19 mortality rate of just over 5%, I know not everyone will catch it but, the US has a population of 323 Million people, scary. Even scarier to be talking of lifting the lockdown and " opening the US up again "...

I assume you are calculating that as number of confirmed cases divided by number of deaths.

That will be a massive over-estimate as confirmed cases will be only a fraction those that have had likely the virus, since most will not have been tested (either because they manage at home as the vast majority do or are asymptomatic).

Still very worrying numbers though.

I also want to make a point about those saying that Trump, and those pushing to 'open up' early, may be proved 'right'

I do very much hope that it turns out that doing this does not result in a new explosion of cases in the states that do it. Mainly of course because the alternative is awful, but also becuase it will be very good news for those countries like ourselves which will be opening from a lower infection level.

But if that turns out to be the case it does not eman that the decision was 'right' in retrospect. These decisions are taken on an assessment of risk based on evidence we have NOW. Not what we may, or may not, come to know in future.

Given what we know (and more importantly what we don't know) it will be a huge risk, and whether or not it 'pays off' it will still have been the same huge risk in retrospect.

As an anology, if I gave you a gun, with one loaded chamber out of six, and told you to point it at a stranger, pull the trigger and I'd give you £1million...and you decided to do it...and it didn't fire...and you walked away with the stranger still alive and £1million in your pocket...would that outcome prove that you had been 'right' in your decision to do it?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

After some thought I guess what I'm saying is:-

America doesn't seem to have anything in place beyond work, work and then work more.

I'm beginning to think it's become easy for a gun toting vocal few to attract support from similar people who have had everything pulled out from underneath them.

Whereas we're more likely to see protests when the government claps its hands and says:-

'come on everybody back to work'

ONE MORE WEEK
ONE MORE WEEK.

To back this up

 

[vegster]

I assume you are calculating that as number of confirmed cases divided by number of deaths.

That will be a massive over-estimate as confirmed cases will be only a fraction those that have had likely the virus, since most will not have been tested (either because they manage at home as the vast majority do or are asymptomatic).

Still very worrying numbers though.

I also want to make a point about those saying that Trump, and those pushing to 'open up' early, may be proved 'right'

I do very much hope that it turns out that doing this does not result in a new explosion of cases in the states that do it. Mainly of course because the alternative is awful, but also becuase it will be very good news for those countries like ourselves which will be opening from a lower infection level.

But if that turns out to be the case it does not eman that the decision was 'right' in retrospect. These decisions are taken on an assessment of risk based on evidence we have NOW. Not what we may, or may not, come to know in future.

Given what we know (and more importantly what we don't know) it will be a huge risk, and whether or not it 'pays off' it will still have been the same huge risk in retrospect.

As an anology, if I gave you a gun, with one loaded chamber out of six, and told you to point it at a stranger, pull the trigger and I'd give you £1million...and you decided to do it...and it didn't fire...and you walked away with the stranger still alive and £1million in your pocket...would that outcome prove that you had been 'right' in your decision to do it?

It could still end up with the possibility of there being several million deaths. Difficult to say how to justify that and what is an " acceptable" level of deaths. As for your gun analogy , I wouldn't take that chance.

 

[Stat Brother]

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Again just my speculation but I also believe the 'stigma' of claiming benefits in the US is far worse than here.
Even for 'just need to tide us over', short term situations.

Perhaps one of our family across the pond can let me know which end I'm talking from.