Right Brain Ronnie
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I didn't know musk was a donor, but I don't see any relevance. I just want to stay open minded on this shooting and see what pops up.
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[Politics] Trump under fire.
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Bold Seagull
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413 school shootings since Columbine, 25 years on. Let’s hope they’ve finally got the data to prevent shootings in the US.
Right Brain Ronnie
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Detail old chap, this was not a school shooting, I wasn't suggesting it was possible to stop all shootings. I do understand that the neuro typical can miss this stuff, although it should be down more to a dyslexic person, but I try to hone in on the detail as much as possible to compensate for my speed and spelling and grammeer problems..
Bold Seagull
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My point being it might not tell you anymore whether he listened to Marilyn Manson albums, watched JFK 1000 times, was a member of a political party, spoken to by aliens, or felt instructed by political rhetoric - he is another American that has felt the need to grab a gun and kill people.
Taking out a political figure probably makes more sense than so many other mass shootings that occur, but finding Catcher in the Rye in his bag is not going to give you your motive.
Nottseagull
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You must think you're such a wonderful poster that nobody could possibly have you on ignore
nicko31
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Feels like everything seems to be going in Trump's direction at the moment. US democracy already shot as is their justice system.
Trump classified documents case dismissed by judge
Justice department says it will appeal against the decision, a major legal win for the former president.
www.bbc.co.uk
Democrats (well a few) tried to get trumps secret service protection withdrawn on the grounds of hun being a convicted criminal.
Trump will be all over that in his campaign, are they running worse election run than the Tories?
Trump will be all over that in his campaign, are they running worse election run than the Tories?
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
Trump appointed judge, who was asked by senior judges not to accept her role on case against Trump, finds dubious legal loophole to dismiss case against Trump shocker!Feels like everything seems to be going in Trump's direction at the moment. US democracy already shot as is their justice system.
Trump classified documents case dismissed by judge
Justice department says it will appeal against the decision, a major legal win for the former president.www.bbc.co.uk
nicko31
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Their only hope is binning Biden very soon, the incidents of the weekend make this less likely in the short term if at all
I wonder if the timing of the ruling was intentional because she knew that sympathy for Trump would be at its optimum so there would be less condemnation of it, or whether the ruling was coming out today any way.
Nottseagull
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Both posts quoted were made this morning, so I don't know what the previous spelling was like. It must be pretty dire if he still can't spell 'too'!
Sergei's Celebration
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Not sure a hand over the head is going to stop a 5.56mm bullet fired from 150m but that's not your point. I just find it amusing.
Nottseagull
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The bone could have deflected it.
But more importantly, the sniper's view is obscured (he might otherwise have realised that the idiot didn't stay down!)
It was a bit closer actually - 131m.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Do you have a source for that please?
I guess there will be a major investigation but security for the Candidates is not just down to the Democrats, the organisation of Trump’s protection is a cross-Party process.
- Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;
- The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;
If you feel so inclined, you can read here more about the Secret Service security protection for both VEEP and Presidential candidates (it’s quite interesting actually)
Campaign 2024 - Candidate Protection
The Secret Service does not determine who qualifies for protection, nor is the Secret Service empowered to independently initiate candidate protection. By law, major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret...
www.secretservice.gov
This is an interesting article of the “massive security breach” that was believed to have taken place.
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Bored of this one now, need another big story. Been spoiled in recent weeks with the election, then this… just one more big one please before the football season and the Albion distracts me…
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Here you go
www.newsweek.com
Like him or not, to pull his security is nuts, they look after his family as well I believe.
Do you have a source for that please?
I guess there will be a major investigation but security for the Candidates is not just down to the Democrats, the organisation of Trump’s protection is a cross-Party process.
- Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;
- The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;
If you feel so inclined, you can read here more about the Secret Service security protection for both VEEP and Presidential candidates (it’s quite interesting actually)
Campaign 2024 - Candidate Protection
The Secret Service does not determine who qualifies for protection, nor is the Secret Service empowered to independently initiate candidate protection. By law, major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret...
This is an interesting article of the “massive security breach” that was believed to have taken place.
Here you go
Bennie Thompson, who moved to strip Trump's security, faces backlash
Saturday's attack on the former president is being treated as an assassination attempt.
www.newsweek.com
Like him or not, to pull his security is nuts, they look after his family as well I believe.
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That is rather a weighted and radical right wing and controversial magazine you linked to there - it courts conspiracy theories, promotes authoritarian leaders and supports the banning of all legal immigration into the States among other things and hasn’t used a fact checker since the 90s (wiki)s
Here you go
Bennie Thompson, who moved to strip Trump's security, faces backlash
Saturday's attack on the former president is being treated as an assassination attempt.
Like him or not, to pull his security is nuts, they look after his family as well I believe.
The actual legislative proposal was to end Secret Service protection for convicted felons that are sentenced to prison and hand that responsibility over to the Prison Services ( a link to FULL TEXT is in the main link below)
Ranking Member Thompson Introduces Legislation to Ensure No Secret Service Protection for Convicted Felons Sentenced to Prison | House Committee on Homeland Security
The Official Website of the House Committee on Homeland Security
democrats-homeland.house.gov
Nottseagull
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That is highly probable, as we know the assassin was killed a very few seconds after opening fire. You can't blame the officer for ducking their head down on the ladder but it looks very much that they also lowered their hand, which presumably was holding their gun. It looks like the officer only raised that hand back up when it was (relatively) safe to do so i.e. when the assassin had started shooting towards the stage. Basically I think a member of the public died because a police officer thought saving their own hand from getting blown off was preferable.
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