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Feb 14, 2010
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Millwall were responsible for selling their tickets so if they sold them in a way that made it easy for West Ham/Chelsea to get them then Millwall should still be punished.

I think the FA sold "neutral tickets" but you have a point. However the fact remains that an eye witness is pointing the finger at west ham and chelsea. All I ask for is that those clubs are punished also if it is true.
 








Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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When you say "prove it" then can I ask what standard of proof you require. The criminal or civil standard or another definition that you have? There is eye witness account to say West Ham and Chelsea had turned up for trouble. I can say that I know getting tickets was easy and I find it more probable that West Ham fans were fighting Millwall fans than Millwall fans had a mass brawl over a burger. It is of course your judgment and if you think the latter is more likely then we will have to agree to differ. If however it is found that West Hamn and Chelsea did turn up then do you agree they should be punished?

It's never Millwall's fault is it. Never. A friend of mine used to work at Wembley on the catering side and he said they were vile, hideous, aggressive, racist and by far the worst people he has ever had the misfortune to meet.
 


Kneon Light

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Jul 24, 2003
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I think the FA sold "neutral tickets" but you have a point. However the fact remains that an eye witness is pointing the finger at west ham and chelsea. All I ask for is that those clubs are punished also if it is true.

Whilst I agree with you to a point it is very hard to punish clubs that had nothing to do with the game. West Ham/Chelsea had nothing to do with ticketing arrangements and cannot be held responsible for their fans at a game they were not even playing in.
What they can do is issue life-long ban to any "fans" involved.
 






jevs

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Mar 24, 2004
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Preston Rock Garden
I think the FA sold "neutral tickets" but you have a point. However the fact remains that an eye witness is pointing the finger at west ham and chelsea. All I ask for is that those clubs are punished also if it is true.

Is this all stuff you've heard on twitter/facebook or some other shite. It's too early for playground talk so unless you have some concrete proof, shut the f*ck up. Could easily be BHA fans in there !!!! Back to school monday.
 


Chicken Runner61

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May 20, 2007
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How bizarre, I am on way home from match & saw no trouble whatsoever, must have been in lower tier below me & my boy. I was there with work as a neutral but in with the Millwall, & I have to say that anyone could have bought tickets in Millwall end as they have been on general sale all week to all & sundry whereas you had to have a purchase history with Wigan to buy tickets through them. Better phone home to say I'm safe !!

If thats true someone is very stupid - I've been in that Club Wembley area and you have both sets of fans there as the seats are sold to named long term holders who "pass" tickets on to "friends & family" - its not impossible (even if expensive ) to get tickets there
 




wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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From The Kid Frankie - Im literally speechless

Please continue Frankie.
 








Feb 14, 2010
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It's never Millwall's fault is it. Never. A friend of mine used to work at Wembley on the catering side and he said they were vile, hideous, aggressive, racist and by far the worst people he has ever had the misfortune to meet.

I will just pick you up on racist. Millwall fans have friends and family who are black and other races. There really is more true racism at Brighton than Millwall. If you want to then look at the Luton riot and see how many of the "racist hooligans" were black. Millwall never recovered from Not the 9 o clock news and various other media portrayed image. They are compared to us a small club amd the press enjoy selling newspapers on an image. Yes, I know there is racist chanting at Millwall but also look at the Brightonv Millwall play off game video from the goldstone and you will notice something about the Millwall crowd - they have black fans. All Im asking is fairness and if you have followed Brighton away then you will know the sort of trouble that Brighton cause.
 


pork pie

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Dec 27, 2008
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When you say "prove it" then can I ask what standard of proof you require. The criminal or civil standard or another definition that you have? There is eye witness account to say West Ham and Chelsea had turned up for trouble. I can say that I know getting tickets was easy and I find it more probable that West Ham fans were fighting Millwall fans than Millwall fans had a mass brawl over a burger. It is of course your judgment and if you think the latter is more likely then we will have to agree to differ. If however it is found that West Hamn and Chelsea did turn up then do you agree they should be punished?

Certainly not! What have a few people that turn up at a Millwall FA Cup match proporting to support West Ham or Chelsea, got to do with those clubs? Absolutely stupid suggestion, like your name would suggest.
 


Feb 14, 2010
4,932
Is this all stuff you've heard on twitter/facebook or some other shite. It's too early for playground talk so unless you have some concrete proof, shut the f*ck up. Could easily be BHA fans in there !!!! Back to school monday.

Unlikely to be Brighton as Brighton couldnt care about Millwall unlike west ham. This report about west ham and chelsea comes from an eye witness in the ground, in the millwall end on Radio 5 live.
 








pork pie

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Dec 27, 2008
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Pork pie land.
I will just pick you up on racist. Millwall fans have friends and family who are black and other races. There really is more true racism at Brighton than Millwall. If you want to then look at the Luton riot and see how many of the "racist hooligans" were black. Millwall never recovered from Not the 9 o clock news and various other media portrayed image. They are compared to us a small club amd the press enjoy selling newspapers on an image. Yes, I know there is racist chanting at Millwall but also look at the Brightonv Millwall play off game video from the goldstone and you will notice something about the Millwall crowd - they have black fans. All Im asking is fairness and if you have followed Brighton away then you will know the sort of trouble that Brighton cause.

Millwall have black fans? No shit! Like the ones we used to scrap in the Old North Stand? Most of some groups were black, others were mainly white. An interesting factor was they tended not to mix too well.
 


jevs

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Mar 24, 2004
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Preston Rock Garden
Unlikely to be Brighton as Brighton couldnt care about Millwall unlike west ham. This report about west ham and chelsea comes from an eye witness in the ground, in the millwall end on Radio 5 live.

Ok that's ok then, i thought it was a legit source. of course, it could've been a Kilmarnock fan who phoned up but you carry on believing !!!
 




Red'n'Blue

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Jan 6, 2011
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We have been trying to tell people that Millwall needed help but no one listened.

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The Kid Frankie

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Sep 5, 2012
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Unlikely to be Brighton as Brighton couldnt care about Millwall unlike west ham. This report about west ham and chelsea comes from an eye witness in the ground, in the millwall end on Radio 5 live.

That's all well and good but in these circumstances an eye witness isn't worth all that much. I remember a few years back there being some minor trouble at the cricket between Sussex and Essex fans. An 'eye witness' then spun a story to the Argus about there having been a three way dust up between football fans of Brighton, West Ham and Southend.
 


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