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Tributes to David Cameron



Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,466
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Perhaps we can't understand the implications of how we vote at General Elections either. Perhaps we should do away with General Elections too - just have the country run by a small unelected elitist group who don't like the result of the referendum? Oh wait a minute - better still! - why not just hand the whole thing over to Brussels?

I know many people who reckon a benign dictatorship is the best form of government, and there are times I agree with them
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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He gambled the entire country's future in a desperate grasp at hanging onto power as he was too terrified to stand up for his principles when faced with the "swivel eyed loon" element of his party and Ukip. He even admitted so himself in his conversations with Clegg at the time.

He'll therefore go down in history as one of the worst Prime Ministers of all time. And rightly so.

Whatever you think of Blair, Thatcher, Brown, Major even, they were leaders who were prepared to follow their own principles (right or wrong).

All Cameron ever did was try to do what was popular with whichever group of people he thought would keep him in the job at the time.

He took spin to a new level regarding the economy, along with Osborne. Overseeing more government borrowing than at any point under any other government while destroying public services and stamping on the poorest in society. Telling everyone that his "economic plan" was working despite the figures showing the exact opposite. I could go on.

The only good thing he did was fall on his sword at the correct moment, simultaneously skewering Boris and Gove. But he had little option to do anything else.

A pathetic politician and an embarrassment of a Prime Minister.

Bye Dave.

You're open minded about his legacy then ?
 


Tim Over Whelmed

Well-known member
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Jul 24, 2007
10,660
Arundel
Well i would not call Libya a sucess.

No, neither would I, unfortunately British Foreign Policy has been misguided at best and criminal at worst, nothing for any government to be proud of. Now we all have to live with and suffer the consequences.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
The Bedroom tax
The pasty tax
The caravan tax
Bombing Syria
Bombing Libya
The EU referendum
Forcing Academy status on schools
Cuts to PIPS
Cuts to Family tax credits
The remain campaign

Just a few of the things he got wrong or had to backtrack on
Don't forget before Junker was voted in as EU commissioner, he didn't like it so campaigned to have someone else installed instead.

He managed to convince Poland and lost the vote 27-2. Not only was that a splendid example of how not to pick your battles, but now that we're quitting the EU with Junker in charge, how do you think that is going to help? Nice work Cameron, one of the worst PMs ever.
 






Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,364
I reckon I could get a result if I told a bunch of people I would give £350m a week to the NHS.


You keep making the same mistake and listening to politicians when they open their mouths.
The majority of people in the UK saw through this nonsense, the same way they saw through the pathetic efforts of Cameron and Osborne to terrify the nation into submission. Anyone with a jot of intelligence knows that pouring £350m a week into the NHS, when it is mismanaged already, is just pouring more good money after bad.
Lets try and rediscover our lost sense of national interest, our community spirit and a sense that culture and integration matter more than the FTSE, than continuing to believe politicians, when we are in serious danger of social and cultural meltdown.
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,934
England
You keep making the same mistake and listening to politicians when they open their mouths.
The majority of people in the UK saw through this nonsense, the same way they saw through the pathetic efforts of Cameron and Osborne to terrify the nation into submission. Anyone with a jot of intelligence knows that pouring £350m a week into the NHS, when it is mismanaged already, is just pouring more good money after bad.
Lets try and rediscover our lost sense of national interest, our community spirit and a sense that culture and integration matter more than the FTSE, than continuing to believe politicians, when we are in serious danger of social and cultural meltdown.

So you are praising them for "getting a result" despite acknowledging that people would have ignored what they actually said(because they all lie).....thus meaning they actually were pointless in the whole equation and people would have voted leave no matter what was said.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
You keep making the same mistake and listening to politicians when they open their mouths.
The majority of people in the UK saw through this nonsense, the same way they saw through the pathetic efforts of Cameron and Osborne to terrify the nation into submission. Anyone with a jot of intelligence knows that pouring £350m a week into the NHS, when it is mismanaged already, is just pouring more good money after bad.
Lets try and rediscover our lost sense of national interest, our community spirit and a sense that culture and integration matter more than the FTSE, than continuing to believe politicians, when we are in serious danger of social and cultural meltdown.

Has there ever been a sense of national interest, community spirit and culture? Ever? Maybe during the Second World War, but not whilst I've been alive (Babyboomer)
 




catfish

North Stand Brighton Boy
Dec 17, 2010
7,677
Worthing
Super rich tax dodgers will be sorry to see him go. Disabled / disadvantaged happy to see the back of him.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,189
Rape of Hastings, Sussex


Me and my Monkey

Well-known member
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Nov 3, 2015
3,466
They delivered a result. Thats all they had to do. How could anyone lay down plans, ideas and visions until they know who is going to be driving through change and what the terms of our exit are. The Remain camp knew what they were voting for. An ever increasing EU. More and more expensive and faceless bureaucracy. More and more contribution from the UK and less and less return. A 73m population in 2030 and 80m in 2040 and total social meltdown. An inferior quality of life and less global opportunity. Their vision was clear.
So was that always their intention? Just to deliver the result? Was there no intention at all to then take responsibility to take things forward? Was that always to be left to the grown ups? The alacrity with which they ran away from the monster they have created is just mind boggling.
 






highflyer

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2016
2,555
Exactly this.

You should know by now that anyone who voted out is thick and doesn't understand the 'consequences' of such a decision. On the other hand, 'remainers' know what they're talking about. [emoji6]
So do you think you, or anyone else knew (knows) what the actual consequences of the out vote will be? As a starter for 10, any idea whether or not we will end up restricting free movement of people between UK and EU? Because I have no idea but maybe just me that's thick? I am however pretty confident about what would have happened had we remained.
 


Murray 17

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
2,163
So do you think you, or anyone else knew (knows) what the actual consequences of the out vote will be? As a starter for 10, any idea whether or not we will end up restricting free movement of people between UK and EU? Because I have no idea but maybe just me that's thick? I am however pretty confident about what would have happened had we remained.
Of course nobody knows what will happen.

Those who voted Remain generally think that the economy will suffer, although economists are rarely completely correct. If they were, they would make a fortune.

Those who voted Leave believed that if we stayed in Europe we would be subject to whatever new scheme the EU dreams up. An EU army, more powers removed from national governments and handed to unelected beurocrats in Brussels, more taxation or funding from the richer countries.

It struck me that some of the Remainers thought they knew better, that they understood the arguments more. And as for the argument that certain groups of people shouldn't be able to vote, because it wasn't their future, well that was astonishing.

I voted Leave, due to, IMO, immigration being too high and too much power being given to Brussels. I genuinely believe that we will be better out of the EU. But I have never taken the opinion that I know better. It's shocking the number of people on here who come across as thinking they do.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Dear David, I'm almost sad to see you go. You told me that you were going to clean up the mess allegedly left by Gordon Brown's worldwide recession and they we would be in this together, however, I'm still in it with many millions of others ?

While you can now take up a few well paid directorships and will have your MP's and Prime Ministers pension to console you I, along with those millions of others have to work even harder to hang on as we slide back down the greasy Snake yet again... You promised us a better way, a fairer way and hope for those who " Work Hard to get On... "... That ladder was very short wasn't it ? Only a little while back you said that " Britain needed a pay rise "... that went well too didn't it ? I was possibly going to get a very small pay rise this summer, one of only 3 in the last 8 years since my earnings crashed by 25% in the recession of 2006...Sadly that looks forlorn now as all your other promises do.

However Mrs May has promised a much fairer government which includes all those that have been left behind In the last 10 years so it will all be alright.. apparently she's " Good with names, gets things done and listens... " I won't hold my breath though, I've heard it all too many times.
 




Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Thank you for everything you have done for the country Dave.
Especially from the poor, disabled and children trying to be educated in the proper manner.
Thank you from nurses, doctors, firemen, paramedics and teachers.
I know you tried you best, so it's a shame you failed or u turned on nearly everything you did.
I am sure you did not mean to divide the country between the rich and poor but it was something you did manage to succeed in doing.
I feel for you that your huge gamble did not pay off and you felt you needed to run away and leave a total mess behind you, much worse than the mess you were supposed to clear up that you could not stop banging on about whenever a 'difficult' decision had to be made.
Thank you for paying off the deficit in 5 years so our children and grandchildren did not have to suffer.
I wish you all the best in whatever you do going forward and sincerely hope that you do not suffer any of the pain you gave to so many over the years.
 




seaford

Active member
Feb 8, 2007
343
I worked with someone who made their decision not to vote Labour on the fact that Kinnock was a "ginger c**t".
Tried to reaon that his decision should be made on the respective policies of the parties on the ballot, but no, he was ginger, so no vote.

There are stupid people on all sides of the political divide.

One of Cameron's legacies may very well be the unilateral scrapping of the Le Touquet treaty by the French, with the result being immigrant camps at the south coast ports of England.
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
He was a puppet to the EU and the states and failed miserably although I thank him for one of the happiest days I've had by getting out of the EU...that's about it from dodgy Dave :)
 


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