[Travel] Travel to Spain

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It’s all about air bnb and holiday homes.

like here there is a huge problem with housing for locals and as so many air bnb( owner billionaire now a big buddy with the Fuhrer and his swasticar chum) lie empty for long periods, locals are getting upset

perfectly sensible.

also growth of all inclusive
hotels and resorts, many tourists are spending all their time on resorts and not spending money at local restaurants or shops.
a perfect storm

Ultimately it’s all about the availability of affordable housing. Air b n b letting is a huge issue but of course it’s the locals, not the tourists, that are renting these out and benefitting from them.

Holiday homes are a bit of a red herring as they are largely built in holiday ‘communities’ and are priced so high that even if the market dropped by 50% they would be unaffordable by local people.

Spain has a woeful record of building affordable housing - Mallorca (scene of a lot of demos) has not built any for over 20 years and still have no plans to do so. It suits politicians to blame tourists as this diverts the attention from their own failings.

There is a real need to develop other industries to reduce the over reliance on often low paid tourist related jobs. However, in the meantime, all the many Spanish people that I know do not support the anti tourist demos and are very concerned about their economic impact

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

AirBnB started with the idea of people renting out a spare room for tourists. Initially a hobbiest thing but totally destroyed by buy to holiday let and then embraced by AirBnB. Scrap it.

I’m now of the view it should be scrapped as well.

 

[portlock seagull]

It's all very bizarre.
"Let's build our entire economy around tourism and then hate them for coming here"
Even the badly behaved Brits stuff is largely their fault. They created these huge party areas in order to flog ridiculous amounts of booze to 18 year olds, basically allowed lawlessness in them and then cried when the obvious happened. If you're gonna offer a free fishbowl to every passing punter then you can't really complain about alcohol fuelled mayhem.

And I say all this as someone who loves and admires Spain/Spanish people/Spanish culture as much as anyone. But they need to get a grip about this stuff.

They’re just in transition.

Things have changed. They have too many tourists, causing a number of problems, so why not go after a different market and discourage the oinks for fewer but higher spending ones that have some manners too? Spain isn’t alone in doing this. Everywhere is.

 

[dandanthebrightonfan]

Has anyone had problems entering Spain for holidays recently? I keep reading about the need to have a letter of invitation to enter Spain, some articles even suggest you have to give bank details, have travel insurance etc. All very confusing. Do you know of anyone denied entry through a lack of this?

No problems but I do have a Irish passport

 

[Randy McNob]

Dare I say.....we chose to be in this situation 8.5 years ago

"everyone knew what they were voting for" "they think we're stupid"

 

[basque seagull]

It’s all about air bnb and holiday homes.

like here there is a huge problem with housing for locals and as so many air bnb( owner billionaire now a big buddy with the Fuhrer and his swasticar chum) lie empty for long periods, locals are getting upset

perfectly sensible.

also growth of all inclusive hotels and resorts, many tourists are spending all their time on resorts and not spending money at local restaurants or shops.
a perfect storm

But those all inclusive resorts are still bringing money and taxes into the local economy.