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Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,697
The Fatherland
My tram in Germany was very punctual at 7am local despite snowing steadily since Sunday morning. Just sayin. :whistle:

There's nothing worse than a smug resident of Germany gloating about their public transport.
 






Yoda

English & European
What about the bottle neck at Croydon and all the houses built since the line closed ?

Only the old Barcombe station and a liitle bit of Bellbrook Industrial Estate in Uckfield has been built on. The biggest issue is where you run the line from north of Lewes to join the other side of Falmer. ???
 


robinsonsgrin

Well-known member
Mar 16, 2009
1,475
LA...wishing it was devon..
when i see on twitter the new people responsible for tweet replies for southern log in for their shift i always think ouch!!! i wouldnt want your job for love nor money..... they are always v polite but how much shit gets thrown at them!!
 


ofco8

Well-known member
May 18, 2007
2,394
Brighton
It's not the only problem though.

Firstly, things go wrong on the road too (the A23 was closed only a week ago when a driver was killed). Then there's the congestion charge cost in London: I can see that being raised again if more and more drivers start coming in to town.

There's the loss of efficiency: commuters can do work on trains (or sleep to come in fully refreshed), that's not an option for drivers. There's also the time taken: I occasionally get a coach into town and that takes just short of three hours, cars would go faster outside London, but won't have the option of bus lanes in town so it would take a similar amount of time, a lot longer than a train in other words.

Finally, there's the strain on the driver: commuting is bad for your health, I'd imagine that the effort of driving and the long delays in traffic would be even worse

You are right but I was talking about train users in general. I used to always drive to away matches. Then found petrol prices, parking etc. was to much hassle. I then switched to going by train. Now with weekend engineering works and replacement buse I may just go by car again.l
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Only the old Barcombe station and a liitle bit of Bellbrook Industrial Estate in Uckfield has been built on. The biggest issue is where you run the line from north of Lewes to join the other side of Falmer. ???

Lewes is a bottle neck junction too, of course if you had a government that invested in public infrastructure then it would be built
 








Munkfish

Well-known member
May 1, 2006
12,089
After 3 hours on the train i found out i was being made redundent today out of no where ****ing result. Worst monday of the year. Probably going to be a contender.
 


mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,607
Llanymawddwy
Sorry just seen earlier posts but it seems that even after 19 years many still can't get a grasp of the setup

I think we all understand it, but we buy our tickets from Southern (I believe) so Southern should provide me with a service, if they are being let down by their providers then they need to deal with that, not us. See it any other way and there can be no accountability and hence the mess (and it really is a mess) that we're in.
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,413
Location Location
All this moaning and this petition has just achieved 574 signatures so far in about a week. I can't be as bad out there after all then. (For what it's worth I am one of the 574)

Probably just a resigned apathy. 5,000,000 signatures wouldn't make a jot of difference. Train passengers getting shafted is like taxes and death. Its a bummer, but there's nothing you can do about it.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
After 3 hours on the train i found out i was being made redundent today out of no where ****ing result. Worst monday of the year. Probably going to be a contender.

They call it Blue Monday - I feel for you. Hope they give you a good severance package, and nothing else goes wrong today.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
All this moaning and this petition has just achieved 574 signatures so far in about a week. I can't be as bad out there after all then. (For what it's worth I am one of the 574)

signed
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
All this moaning and this petition has just achieved 574 signatures so far in about a week. I can't be as bad out there after all then. (For what it's worth I am one of the 574)

It is bad but I haven't signed any petition because I don't think they are taken very seriously, just a sop. And I mean that not just with this petition but all of the well-intentioned but ultimately futile petitions we get asked to sign.

I really don't know what the answer is, I'm afraid but I'm certain that signing a petition is not going to make any difference.
 


gregbrighton

New member
Aug 10, 2014
2,059
Brighton
All this moaning and this petition has just achieved 574 signatures so far in about a week. I can't be as bad out there after all then. (For what it's worth I am one of the 574)

Exactly. Nothing will change if there is so much apathy. It's boring to hear the constant moans. Commuters STFU.
 


theboybilly

Well-known member
It is bad but I haven't signed any petition because I don't think they are taken very seriously, just a sop. And I mean that not just with this petition but all of the well-intentioned but ultimately futile petitions we get asked to sign.

I really don't know what the answer is, I'm afraid but I'm certain that signing a petition is not going to make any difference.

Maybe so, but signing it made me feel a little better. With all the rail travel to away games I do I have to say it's the 'Southern' bit of the journey I dread most. I had everything sorted coming home from Rotherham but plans went awry with a combination of Network Rail infrastructure problems and lack of information or any sort of contingency plan from the train operator. I was sure at one pont I was going to see a poor front-line member of staff lynched by the regular punters.
 


Munkfish

Well-known member
May 1, 2006
12,089
They call it Blue Monday - I feel for you. Hope they give you a good severance package, and nothing else goes wrong today.

Should be okay for 6 months. Just scary as I have to start again. Same place since i left working in retail and worked my nuts off to get where i got. Tbf im angry as hell right now. But got to turn that anger into drive and proving myself again which is no bad thing. Just scary as hell. Worst part we were told jobs were safe 2 months ago and turned oppotunities down.
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
18,071
Vamanos Pest
Exactly. Nothing will change if there is so much apathy. It's boring to hear the constant moans. Commuters STFU.

Tell you what pal its boring hearing YOU. Sorry that we are not storming the winter palace or whatever but there is little we can actually do you bellend.
 




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