Train prices set to rise

[HawkTheSeagull]

All part of the governments plan to make passengers pay for the entire railway. No chance of renationalisation either, the cost to actually run the railway would be too significant. Also compared to how services were ran under British Rail, if it was a full return to then - there would be a major reduction of services.

I also highly doubt train companies will stick the extra 2% on either, the PR for them would be atrocious, Southern decided not to last year for that reason.

The new Thameslink franchise starts soon for the record, additional services to London from Brighton as well as direct trains to Cambridge and Peterborough from Sussex, some of what the eye-watering fares pay for, not to mention the load of new trains on the way and the ongoing works at London Bridge.

 

[Gwylan]

According to the Office of National Statistics, the cost of train travel (in real terms) has increased by an eye-watering 62% since 1980. The cost of bus and coach travel has increased by 59% while the cost of motoring has decreased by 12%.

Future governments will start looking at pampered motorists and think they're ripe for hitting next

 

[Mo Gosfield]

It is a deliberate policy to get as many people using the road network as possible. This is the real ' cash-cow ' not trains, buses, coaches etc. The government wouldn't worry if there was a 50% fall in rail passengers. They will continue to allow price rises above inflation just to see more cars on the roads.

 

[Commander]

And people think we are being mugged paying £40 a month to watch Championship football!

 

[albion534]

I don't use trains and I'm outraged

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

All part of the governments plan to make passengers pay for the entire railway. No chance of renationalisation either, the cost to actually run the railway would be too significant. Also compared to how services were ran under British Rail, if it was a full return to then - there would be a major reduction of services.

I also highly doubt train companies will stick the extra 2% on either, the PR for them would be atrocious, Southern decided not to last year for that reason.

The new Thameslink franchise starts soon for the record, additional services to London from Brighton as well as direct trains to Cambridge and Peterborough from Sussex, some of what the eye-watering fares pay for, not to mention the load of new trains on the way and the ongoing works at London Bridge.

East Coast Main Line have already proved that whilst in arms length public ownership you can return a healthy profit into the Treasury coffers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

According to the Office of National Statistics, the cost of train travel (in real terms) has increased by an eye-watering 62% since 1980. The cost of bus and coach travel has increased by 59% while the cost of motoring has decreased by 12%.

Future governments will start looking at pampered motorists and think they're ripe for hitting next

Future governments should definitely start hitting motorists next.

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

If my lad finds a job nearer Sussex that will be the end for me travelling down from Devon to home games on a Saturday next season as it will be stupid money to lash out for a train

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Reading the Easyjet in-flight mag is quite revealing. Gatwick to London stands out at about 6 times the price of all others. Total piss take.

 

[beorhthelm]

Reading the Easyjet in-flight mag is quite revealing. Gatwick to London stands out at about 6 times the price of all others. Total piss take.

how many of the others involve a 35Km trip on a busy commuter route?
and where are the others that do fares for £1.60?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

how many of the others involve a 35Km trip on a busy commuter route?
and where are the others that do fares for £1.60?

UK trains are a rip-off. You cannot defend them.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

According to the Office of National Statistics, the cost of train travel (in real terms) has increased by an eye-watering 62% since 1980. The cost of bus and coach travel has increased by 59% while the cost of motoring has decreased by 12%.

Future governments will start looking at pampered motorists and think they're ripe for hitting next

Yet the car fraternity bleat about being squeezed...

 

[beorhthelm]

UK trains are a rip-off. You cannot defend them.

i'll take that as a no then. i was only wondering if there are comparable issues abroad.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

But the trains have never been busier. They will only listen if people say no (not commuters poor s**s) same goes for not paying your gas/electricity and water bills (down here anyway its ridiculous) its all a rip off and yet all we do is make a nice cup of tea.

 

[Train Spotter]

Thank shit I don't have to pay! Currently touring Austria on my free passes!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

i'll take that as a no then. i was only wondering if there are comparable issues abroad.

If you're wondering if the railways I use have increased in price by 50% in 10 years, are overcrowded, increasingly complicated to book, increasingly fragmented and late with all manner of bullshit excuses then it's a no.

 

[beorhthelm]

But the trains have never been busier.

because for most people the train is still cheaper than car. even for commuters with premium fares its cheaper to pay 4k from the Sussex coast to London than petrol for the same (at say 35mpg avg.), before even counting depreciation and running costs. we have a commuting culture that we accept traveling 30, 40, 50 miles to work which i'm not sure is prominent elsewhere. the commuters can pay for this, and so there's little justification for a heavily subsidised non-commuter service, even though in practice there is by virtue of all the discounting available off-peak.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

because for most people the train is still cheaper than car. even for commuters with premium fares its cheaper to pay 4k from the Sussex coast to London than petrol for the same (at say 35mpg avg.), before even counting depreciation and running costs. we have a commuting culture that we accept traveling 30, 40, 50 miles to work which i'm not sure is prominent elsewhere. the commuters can pay for this, and so there's little justification for a heavily subsidised non-commuter service, even though in practice there is by virtue of all the discounting available off-peak.

It's surely more to do with the fact that in a lot of cases it is the only viable option? If you choose to work in London but live in Brighton driving is not really an option. I agree we do have a culture which is happy to accept travelling 50 miles to work. And seemingly happy to accept a shite and expensive service.

 

[Beach Hut]

Disgraceful of rail companies to do this