Train CARNAGE Part 563

[HawkTheSeagull]

That's the effect of "progress and rationalisation". I don't remember so many problems when there were proper signal boxes.

All signalling is being moved into these centres across the country, means they can all communicate with each other quicker so disruption happens less, but if something like what happened at Three Bridges today happens - then it basically googles up a region. Had it have been a big fire today, then were talking weeks of problems for the whole London - Brighton line, as this centre controls signals up to Thornton Heath !!

I don't quite understand how a fire alarm can cause that must chaos for 10s of thousands of people from before 06:00 and won't be "normal" until 14:00 ?? Something is seriously wrong with this system.

Because all the people that control the signalling system were evacuated from the building due to a fire (which apparently there was, just a minor one). Signalling was back at about 6.45 but because everything was delayed and all over the place, it takes time to recover because so many trains run in the area which was affected, no trains ran in an area between Worthing, Horsham, Thornton Heath, East Croydon, Oxted and Lewes - though it doesnt look too bad now.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Going to be one of those days today - trains suspended between Cosham/Havant and Portsmouth - person under a train at Hilsea, going to bugger up the West Coast line even more now.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

All signalling is being moved into these centres across the country, means they can all communicate with each other quicker so disruption happens less, but if something like what happened at Three Bridges today happens - then it basically googles up a region. Had it have been a big fire today, then were talking weeks of problems for the whole London - Brighton line, as this centre controls signals up to Thornton Heath !!

Because all the people that control the signalling system were evacuated from the building due to a fire (which apparently there was, just a minor one). Signalling was back at about 6.45 but because everything was delayed and all over the place, it takes time to recover because so many trains run in the area which was affected, no trains ran in an area between Worthing, Horsham, Thornton Heath, East Croydon, Oxted and Lewes - though it doesnt look too bad now.

That is crazy. No disaster recovery contingency plans. Single points of failure. What is this the 19th century ??

 

[big nuts]

I'm on the 11.35... Allegedly!

I'm on the 11:35 to now so only 30 mins behind schedule.

 

[Gwylan]

That is crazy. No disaster recovery contingency plans. Single points of failure. What is this the 19th century ??

Unfair on the 19th century - engineers worked out plenty of alternative routes

 

[pasty]

Glad I am WFH today

Moi aussi

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Unfair on the 19th century - engineers worked out plenty of alternative routes

Probably true.

 

[itszamora]

That is crazy. No disaster recovery contingency plans. Single points of failure. What is this the 19th century ??

I'm not sure disaster is even fair. It was a fire alarm FFS. Imagine the chaos an actual disaster would cause.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I'm not sure disaster is even fair. It was a fire alarm FFS. Imagine the chaos an actual disaster would cause.

The term doesn't mean 'disaster' it's for general contingency planning, nothing to do with the severity of the incident.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

That is crazy. No disaster recovery contingency plans. Single points of failure. What is this the 19th century ??

Recovery plan is to simply get trains moving again, which involves terminating them at other places or running them fast so it doesn't cock everything for the rest of the day up. This was what Southern call "Code Black" - basically meltdown, first time in about a year that's been called, everything else is usually "Code Red" which just means Major Disruption.

Had the building have been destroyed, I'd have thought another centre could probably take over, that or Ernest can get off his ARS and manually do the points HIMSELF.

 

[Napper]

2 claims gone in.

Thats 6 for the week.

Clowns

 

[Pat McCrotch]

2 claims gone in.

Thats 6 for the week.

Clowns

2 on one day? Pray tell...

 

[Napper]

2 on one day? Pray tell...

plenty of options to claim going there, make your choice.

then the 14:51 London Vic to Brighton arriving 15:52 was cancelled

Fill your boots

 

[Pat McCrotch]

plenty of options to claim going there, make your choice.

then the 14:51 London Vic to Brighton arriving 15:52 was cancelled

Fill your boots

When i've tried to do the return jouney in the past it normally gets rejected with "Daily Max Reached" or something similar

 

[beorhthelm]

That is crazy. No disaster recovery contingency plans. Single points of failure. What is this the 19th century ??

indeed, its bizarre when nowadays companies try to develop strategies for infrastructure to be decentralised and distributed, the rail network has gone the other way.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

2 claims gone in.

Thats 6 for the week.

Clowns

Clowns in what way ?

Cant help fire alarms going off, i mean you wouldnt stay at your desk if you had an alarm going off...... That said the constant signalling problems are a joke and it needs to be modernised.

 

[8ace]

Are the rattlers ok for tomorrow Ernets

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Go by car - it gets you there.

 

[Weststander]

Go by car - it gets you there.

Not always if it's a Citroen, or Peugeot, or Renault, or Fiat.