[Football] Touching-up v Snowflakes

[The Clamp]

It'll be interesting to see if past hostesses speak up. How long before a rape accusation is forthcoming?

 

[Mr Bridger]

It'll be interesting to see if past hostesses speak up. How long before a rape accusation is forthcoming?

worried?

 

[sir albion]

It'll be interesting to see if past hostesses speak up. How long before a rape accusation is forthcoming?

Many have and said it was a good place and one even married a bloke from there
You can be sure many will try and reap some money with stories galore.

 

[The Clamp]

worried?

Nah, I'll get Alfredmizen to represent me in court. His groundbreaking "Islamic grooming gangs" defence will revolutionise how court cases are fought.

 

[The Clamp]

Many have and said it was a good place and one even married a bloke from there
You can be sure many will try and reap some money with stories galore.

I'm sure for some it's a good experience, or a beneficial one at least. I'm sure for others it's a nightmare they wish they'd never agreed to. The former does not negate the latter.

 

[LlcoolJ]

It would take to long to re-educate you from scratch as it appears that is what you need but just leave it at most biases dont involve facts, or falsehoods thats why fake news love fact checkers, fake police for fake news.

If that was written in English then I'd still let it wash over me like a stream of piss from an overpriced hooker. In the Dorchester.



Being slightly more serious, it's a really sad state of affairs when so many men on here feel threatened by the idea of not being total c***s to women. Put your "media this" "feminism that" crap aside for a second and use your brain......

Oh no, you can't. Utter tools. I'm embarrassed that you support the same team as me tbf.

EDIT - not you looney, I know you're just playing - as ever.

 

[sir albion]

I'm sure for some it's a good experience, or a beneficial one at least. I'm sure for others it's a nightmare they wish they'd never agreed to. The cornerback does not negate the latter.

You have a choice in life wether to do things or not and many chose this work and many no doubt hope for some nice money.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

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[BadFish]

I've not said it was Ok, I've said, many times, I don't condone or approve of their behavior. I just also don't agree with you and others that these men were being anything more than drunk and flirtatious or that these women were "abused" or "assaulted" because they were touched on the hip, or even the bum. Perhaps you can point to one or two examples where it was more than that, but this article isn't about those one or two incidents, it's been made just as much about a hand on the hip, or "lower back", and I think that's stupid, and I think a lot of this story is patronizing to women.

If the story had been about the women who had a hand put up her skirt, or the guy who got is c*ck out, I would have had no objections, but conflating hand holding and hands on hip and hands on lower backs with those things is wrong.

I also believe that most women are not traumatized by a hand being placed on their lower back, and that most women are also perfectly capable of dealing with a man who steps out of line.

I think you need to reread the FT article.

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[hart's shirt]

According to the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/guest-list-presidents-club-all-male-charity-gala

Nadhim Zahawi
British Conservative MP who was appointed as education minister in a recent reshuffle. He chairs the All Party Parliamentary Group for Kurdistan and is also the co-founder of the web-based market research firm YouGov. A Downing Street spokesman said: “Mr Zahawi clearly did attend the event briefly and has himself said he felt uncomfortable at it at the point at which the hostesses were introduced by the host.”

David Walliams
The comedian, author and Britain’s Got Talent judge has hosted the dinner for the past three years. He tweeted: “I was there in a strictly professional capacity and not as a guest. I left immediately after I had finished my presenting on stage at 11.30pm. I did not witness any of the kind of behaviour that allegedly occurred and am absolutely appalled by the reports.”

So Walliams claims not to have witnessed anything whilst he was there before immediately leaving.

And Zahawi says he was uncomfortable at the point of the hostess introductions.

One wonders just how the hostesses were introduced (i.e. words, tone, manner), presumably by the host and much before 11:30pm.

 

[The Clamp]

You have a choice in life wether to do things or not and many chose this work and many no doubt hope for some nice money.

With respect, nobody but the women involved know what choice they felt they had.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

I bet Roger Mellie was there

 

[looney]

If you are unable to fathom the post out, then im sorry. Mainly for you.

Its called hypocritical, you accusing PPF of doing something you did as well.

 

[marlowe]

Is this a fact? Are you saying that all women are weaker than all men? Well done, you've nailed sexism again in your first line and a half.

As to the second highlighted part, do you think it's appropriate for women to inappropriately touch men without their consent?

You clearly don't realise you're doing it, but your language is fundamentally sexist, and it's undermining the argument I genuinely believe you're trying to make, which feels like a sound one, even if the foundations are a tad wobbly. Not a criticism per se, just something you should probably consider when discussing the topic in future.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You are misinterpreting really basic English. I do not believe your level of understanding is that compromised and you are clearly intentionally misinterpreting everything I say for the sake of having an argument. But instead of looking to have an argument with someone for something they have said you appear to want to argue against something that hasn't been said. It all seems a bit pointless to me and rather odd.

 

[looney]

If that was written in English then I'd still let it wash over me like a stream of piss from an overpriced hooker. In the Dorchester.

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Being slightly more serious, it's a really sad state of affairs when so many men on here feel threatened by the idea of not being total c***s to women. Put your "media this" "feminism that" crap aside for a second and use your brain......

Oh no, you can't. Utter tools. I'm embarrassed that you support the same team as me tbf.

EDIT - not you looney, I know you're just playing - as ever.

Of course, your upset but how much of it is because people are refusing to fall in line and rubber stamp your agenda, the issue of the treatment of women to many is the secondry issue. This is what you are not getting.

 

[The_Viper]

It's very days, and I imagine a lot more will come out so, we'll find out in due course if it develops into a formal Met investigation from the current 'nonsense' stage.

Good, I hope so. Because this guilty until proven innocent witch hunt by social media era we're in right now is farcical.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Good, I hope so. Because this guilty until proven innocent witch hunt by social media era we're in right now is farcical.

The Attorney General has waded into it now, so it wont be too long - https://www.ft.com/content/fb21b910-01c4-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5

 

[Brighton Mod]

Dawn Butler attempting to make a political point on this issue stopped in her tracks by channel four journalist who asked if jeremy Corbyn was going to discipline labour who was there. Perhaps she needs to look closer to home.
The story is running out of legs, the media are desperate to promote this story, but as yet still no one has come forward. Reminds me of the so called horse meat crisis a few years ago, the public are not stupid, they have already drawn their conclusions. It is appearing to be a middle class shock and again no one wants to listen to them.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

It will come as no surprise tonanyone on here that the 4 or 5 ****wits who condone this behaviour and focus more on the posters they don't like than the subject of discussion also: Voted Brexit, regularly post full on or quasi racist material and opinions and regularly de-rail interesting threads with their bigoted nonsense.
The Fairy Godfathers.

It would better to not undermine the serious points you are making by trying to link it to BREXIT. I just won’t bother reading any further.

 

[The Clamp]

I bet Roger Mellie was there
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It would better to not undermine the serious points you are making by trying to link it to BREXIT. I just won’t bother reading any further.

I can live with that.