[Football] Touching-up v Snowflakes

[Kalimantan Gull]

There are people on here who are far more upset about this event than the countless cases of muslim grooming gangs judging by their comments.

Judging by your comments, as you've apparently little problem with what went on at the Dorchester, does that also mean you have no problem with the muslim-grooming gangs?

 

[The Clamp]

She's a dancer on a stage now? Why not just call her a hooker. Women who don't agree with you don't count I guess, you've ignored all the points that she made, and she clearly described working alongside other women and men at these events and speaking with them and witnessing what goes on.

What are they running scared from? Your noble ideas of swift and righteous justice?

Pitchforks more like.

You got it wrong mate, just cop to it and move on. You're defending the indefensible and making yourself look like a tit in the process. And this is a thread where racism's AlfredMizen has participated so that's saying something!

 

[LlcoolJ]

All this proves is that this new militant bloody mindedness is prevailing over good sense and reason.

Jesus wept. I was willing to give you a pass based on the fact that you're clearly old and stupid rather than offensive......but you keep DIGGING. Moron.

 

[alfredmizen]

I'll bite. Who has said this?

nobody has "said" it you dolt .

 

[Brian Munich]

It's so disheartening, isn't it. It's ok for women and men to be sexual objects.

I love being seen by women as a sexual object personally.

 

[The Clamp]

nobody has "said" it you dolt .

Sorry, who has typed posts that suggest it? And could you quote the posts that suggest the events at the Dorchester are worse than Islamic grooming gangs in Rotherham.

 

[alfredmizen]

Judging by your comments, as you've apparently little problem with what went on at the Dorchester, does that also mean you have no problem with the muslim-grooming gangs?

i have large problems with muslim grooming gangs , i do t have a "problem" per se with tbe dorchester event , i dont doubt that most of tbe women knew what they were letting tbemselves in for , i just think , as i get older that people at these events get carried away and behave stupidly to impress their peers and when they wake up in the morning will be a little depressed by their behaviour.

 

[alfredmizen]

Sorry, who has typed posts that suggest it?

klaas for.one

 

[dingodan]

You got it wrong mate, just cop to it and move on. You're defending the indefensible and making yourself look like a tit in the process. And this is a thread where racism's AlfredMizen has participated so that's saying something!

I'm actually not defending anything. I've never defended the behavior of the guests at this event. Don't equate my position, that your level of outrage is unjustified and disproportionate, with a defense their behavior, that's just lazy.

I'm not defending them, nor will I. I'm just not agreeing with you.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

OK Pal, thank you for that rather worthless advice

That's okay, it feels like you need it. Don't worry though, I found out the answer to my original question myself, seeing as you've still not managed to give me a straight and simple answer.

 

[The Clamp]

klaas for.one

Well, where is the quote or post number?

 

[The Clamp]

I'm actually not defending anything. I've never defended the behavior of the guests at this event. Don't equate my position, that your level of outrage is unjustified and disproportionate, with a defense their behavior., that's just lazy.

I'm not defending them, nor will I. I'm just not agreeing with you.

I'm not outraged I'm disappointed.

 

[alfredmizen]

Well, where is the quote or post number?

thats my whole point , i didnt see any posts at all from him on muslim grooming gangs , youre quite hard work arent you ?

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

Surely you're not questioning the fact that generally a solitary male would be better equipped to fend off the unwanted physical advances of a group of predatory females than a solitary female would against a group of men. This was the point I was making so how on earth could that be construed as a sexist statement? Men are generally physically stronger than women. That is an accepted fact, not a sexist slur on the physical frailties of women. And I certainly would not have written, as you suggest, “but these poor, helpless little women can’t defend themselves against all the touching and need a big strong man to help them” but I would say that "a big strong man" should never be inappropriately touching any women without their consent in the first place.

Is this a fact? Are you saying that all women are weaker than all men? Well done, you've nailed sexism again in your first line and a half.

As to the second highlighted part, do you think it's appropriate for women to inappropriately touch men without their consent?

You clearly don't realise you're doing it, but your language is fundamentally sexist, and it's undermining the argument I genuinely believe you're trying to make, which feels like a sound one, even if the foundations are a tad wobbly. Not a criticism per se, just something you should probably consider when discussing the topic in future.

 

[BBassic]

thats my whole point , i didnt see any posts at all from him on muslim grooming gangs , youre quite hard work arent you ?

I'm going to regret engaging with you but why does there need to be any posts about Muslim grooming gangs in a topic entirely unrelated to Muslim grooming gangs?

 

[The Clamp]

thats my whole point , i didnt see any posts at all from him on muslim grooming gangs , youre quite hard work arent you ?

Christ. You said some people's posts suggest they care more about the events at the Dorchester than they do Islamic grooming gangs. I asked for an example, you don't have one. What have grooming gangs got to do with this? You know what Bushy, don't sweat it, I know you're talking racist old bollcks as usual, I won't make you squirm for answers to questions you can't even understand. You're free to go.

 

[alfredmizen]

I'm going to regret engaging with you but why does there need to be any posts about Muslim grooming gangs in a topic entirely unrelated to Muslim grooming gangs?

there doesnt , my point is that there are people utterly outraged by this claiming to be angry about the exploitation of women, who were silent on the subject of muslim grooming gangs , i know what i consider to be the worse exploitation.

 

[BBassic]

there doesnt , my point is that there are people utterly outraged by this claiming to be angry about the exploitation of women, who were silent on the subject of muslim grooming gangs , i know what i consider to be the worse exploitation.

They're both terrible. Fair enough, consider my question answered. And minimal regret too. I feel like we've shared a moment.

 

[alfredmizen]

They're both terrible. Fair enough, consider my question answered. And minimal regret too. I feel like we've shared a moment.

That wasnt too difficult now was it

 

[The Clamp]

there doesnt , my point is that there are people utterly outraged by this claiming to be angry about the exploitation of women, who were silent on the subject of muslim grooming gangs , i know what i consider to be the worse exploitation.

Who was silent on that matter and outraged at this one? Any examples of that (don't worry, I won't hold you to it, I know you can't).
There were several threads on the subject and people were rightly outraged and upset by that subject. Unlike you, they didn't blame all Muslims and they're not racist so you probably didn't deem it significant outrage.
Anyway, it's **** all to do with this thread.