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[Albion] Tottenham Hotspur vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***



Swegulls

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Personally I’d rather take three draws away to the Big 6 than 1 win and 5 losses. My tiny brain would give me more confidence by that, and reduce the points to those we compete with at the top of the table. We were equally good as Spurs, why throw it away in added time?
 




As the old saying goes, live on your feet rather than die on your knees
 


We should really be a cagey defensive-first team like West Ham :ohmy:
 




hans kraay fan club

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I've thought a bit about the notion that we were too cavalier at the end to protect a point.

But if you ask most football fans, 95% of them will say "yes I want a tactically attacking manager". If that's the case, you have to walk the walk if you talk the talk.

We were going for 3 points at the end, the young winger we brought on was doing brave and exciting things I thought. We got caught on a break and surrendered one point. Gutting yes, but in the cold light of day an acceptable trade for us to continue to be a brave, attacking team that tries to win games. I'd want us to do the same again but next time Fati will break the net
Yes, this is where I’m at. I’ve read a hundred times that we were too cavalier and threw away a point - on the basis that had we wished to, we could have settled for the point and guaranteed it.

Well, that doesn’t quite tally to my recollection of a previous PL visit to Spurs, where Chris Hughton’s side put eleven men behind the ball for the whole game, and looked like grinding out a precious point, before funnily enough, conceding a sickening winner in the last minute of added time.
 




Wardy's twin

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Yes, this is where I’m at. I’ve read a hundred times that we were too cavalier and threw away a point - on the basis that had we wished to, we could have settled for the point and guaranteed it.

Well, that doesn’t quite tally to my recollection of a previous PL visit to Spurs, where Chris Hughton’s side put eleven men behind the ball for the whole game, and looked like grinding out a precious point, before funnily enough, conceding a sickening winner in the last minute of added time.

We are a lot better team than we were under Hughton. I was at that game you mention, Erickson in 86 min? sickner but nowhere a bad as yesterday because we actually did deserve a point for our all round play rather than Duffy & Dunk blocks.

We had 30 seconds to see out and lost but I guess hindsight is always 100% right.
 


Swegulls

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I just hope it doesn’t look like this in the first leg, away, at 1-1 in minute 96, at Sporting, Roma or Shakhtar just ”because it’s in our DNA”.
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Rookie

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Not least the blatant foul on Facundo just before their first goal. We’d have been booked for that 100% if it were the other way around.

Whilst not wanting to slag the ref off too much he let some injury threatening tackles that deserved a card go but seemed to be happy to book Albion players for more innocuous challenges. As for the lino at our end in the first half, incompetent doesn’t cover it. He managed to spot all our offsides in the second half and a couple that weren’t imo, but virtually none of theirs in the first half. I was right in line with most of them too.
The Lino wouldn’t have looked out of place in Sunday league where you have oppo players running the line. Homer doesn’t do him justice
 




Lifelong Supporter

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On reflection playing Spurs it is better to be in their half rather than ours. They are much better attacking than defending. Thus I have no problem with the attacking approach late on. Looking at it another way Spurs played it really well to create and score that goal.
 




Skuller

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Stadium is good once inside but is very poor outside. Very hard to walk around the outside.

Worst ground ever to get away from. That part of London is a dump.
I left at full time and did a brisk walk (ten minutes) to Northumberland Park station. I walked straight onto the platform and onto a train that went to Liverpool Street with only one stop. I wish the Amex were that easy.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Not read the thread and only just got round to watching the highlights so apologies if this has been covered before.

1st goal Spurs got lucky twice with the bounce of the ball. First with Gilmour blocking/tackling the spurs player but the ball bouncing kindly for him to carry on with his run and secondly with the ball coming back off the post.

2nd goal, Estupinian pauses momentarily to ask for offside before continuing to run back. He lost a yard by pausing, if he hadn't he would have been in position to put it behind for a corner.

So my takeaway is there wasn't a lot wrong with the performance(based off of the highlights I've seen...). The luck of the bounce and a momentary puase did for us. Frustrating but not the end of the world.
 


Uh_huh_him

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No complaints about the approach to the game.

We had enough chances to win it, as did they decent game.
Awful linesman.

We've had worse results.
 




Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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No complaints about the approach to the game.

We had enough chances to win it, as did they decent game.
Awful linesman.

We've had worse results.
The lino looked like he was raising his flag under duress all very questionable. Especially the one from a deep free kick in our half out to Lamptey he wasn’t offside.
 


Uh_huh_him

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The lino looked like he was raising his flag under duress all very questionable. Especially the one from a deep free kick in our half out to Lamptey he wasn’t offside.
It was bizarre.

I'm terrible at paying attention to these things, but even I saw the three offsides not given by him in the first half (at least one of them lead to a corner).
And then all of a sudden he's seeing every marginal/debatable offside against us in the second half.

A more obvious example of bias you will not see.
 


Uh_huh_him

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Not read the thread and only just got round to watching the highlights so apologies if this has been covered before.

1st goal Spurs got lucky twice with the bounce of the ball. First with Gilmour blocking/tackling the spurs player but the ball bouncing kindly for him to carry on with his run and secondly with the ball coming back off the post.

2nd goal, Estupinian pauses momentarily to ask for offside before continuing to run back. He lost a yard by pausing, if he hadn't he would have been in position to put it behind for a corner.

So my takeaway is there wasn't a lot wrong with the performance(based off of the highlights I've seen...). The luck of the bounce and a momentary puase did for us. Frustrating but not the end of the world.

Surely by this point of the game, he should have given up any hope of seeing a linesman's flag in our half.
 


dazzer6666

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Personally I’d rather take three draws away to the Big 6 than 1 win and 5 losses. My tiny brain would give me more confidence by that, and reduce the points to those we compete with at the top of the table. We were equally good as Spurs, why throw it away in added time?
Not for me…….Saturday was the reverse of two seasons ago when we scored an injury-time winner there. It’s what makes football what it is.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Not read the thread and only just got round to watching the highlights so apologies if this has been covered before.

1st goal Spurs got lucky twice with the bounce of the ball. First with Gilmour blocking/tackling the spurs player but the ball bouncing kindly for him to carry on with his run and secondly with the ball coming back off the post.

2nd goal, Estupinian pauses momentarily to ask for offside before continuing to run back. He lost a yard by pausing, if he hadn't he would have been in position to put it behind for a corner.

So my takeaway is there wasn't a lot wrong with the performance(based off of the highlights I've seen...). The luck of the bounce and a momentary puase did for us. Frustrating but not the end of the world.
This. Irritated me, especially when it will all be checked by VAR anyway. First priority is defending the ball, not calling for offsides. Especialy as I think it was him that was playing Son onside!
 


hampshirebrightonboy

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Haha, no, but in added time away to Spurs, yes!
I don't get all this 'game management' stuff.

If you are winning then obviously it's game maangement - shut up shop in the closing stages of the match.
If you are drawing and happy to take a point then the same.

However, if you are drawing and not happy with the point then you don't shut up shop - you go for the win. Obviously the manager and players were in this camp. It was just unfortunate they scored.
 


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