Tossers at kids football matches

[Hadlee]

It kicked off yesterday when the mums of the team James was playing against started a ruckus with each other after we had demolished them 5-2.

Wo-oo-hoo!!

Was Mrs Milkins involved ?

 

[Parson Henry]

Was Mrs Milkins involved ?

No it was the OTHER team!!

Which just happened to be James' old team.

 

[Deano's Right Foot]

I'm not sure the Junior Seagulls are actually involved officially with the club? I know when we've seen them at tournaments, they've worn the kit and stuff - but I'm sure the ACTUAL youth sides at the Albion starts at age U9? It's a bit confusing - I've not quite sussed out yet if there's TWO junior sides - one officially with the club and one unofficially?
Anyone know?

The Seagulls Club FC teams are connected to the Junior Seagulls club (Matt Hicks et al ) and get kit supplied and other support and all players have to be a member of the Junior Seagulls Club. They have no direct link to the official Brighton and Hove Albion youth teams or centres of excellence etc. and indeed the younger teams are often run on an "everyone gets a game" basis rather than on the best players dominating.

 

[bhaexpress]

The Seagulls Club FC teams are connected to the Junior Seagulls club (Matt Hicks et al ) and get kit supplied and other support and all players have to be a member of the Junior Seagulls Club. They have no direct link to the official Brighton and Hove Albion youth teams or centres of excellence etc. and indeed the younger teams are often run on an "everyone gets a game" basis rather than on the best players dominating.

As matter on interest what age group is that though ? A lot of clubs do that but it changes once they start secondry school.

 

[Deano's Right Foot]

Yes it changes at about secondary school age.

 

[bhaexpress]

Yes it changes at about secondary school age.

That's when it gets competitive and the problems start. I would agree when the kids are at primary school its all very friendly. The trouble is you can see some parents trying to live their dreams vicariously through their children although this is by no means restricted to football.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

You can;t judge a team by a couple of players or parents. You can't judge a Club by one age-group. And it is harsh to make a judgement on a team based on one game. Any team will have matches they are not particularly proud of.

I would agree that the tone of the support can be influenced by the manager. If the manager starts ranting - that can kick it all off. If the manager doesn't clamp down on verbal abuse by the team against the opposition and referee - that can set it all off. And then the manager needs to make sure the parents understand the destructive influence on the team when parents get over-excited. And the manager needs to be prepared to sub players - regardless of how good they are - when they lose their heads.

It is about lads having fun, being with their mates, learning the importance of working as a team, and learning to win and lose. And about lads having fun.

 

[British Bulldog]

It is about lads having fun, being with their mates, learning the importance of working as a team, and learning to win and lose.

Nail on head there me thinks!

Little Bulldog was playing for P W Colts u15's yesterday and they lost 4-2 at Arundel Colts but when they came off the pitch they got nothing but praise from all of us there supporting them. They played as a team, battled for for each other and encouraged each other and never gave up until the final whistle. And i'm pleased to write that I did'nt hear one bit of abuse from any adult of either side!

 

[bhaexpress]

It is about lads having fun, being with their mates, learning the importance of working as a team, and learning to win and lose. And about lads having fun.

That's the theory of it but you might just as well say all scout masters are purely interested in developing young minds. In the main that's true but sometimes there are other agendas.

A lot of parents have a higher opinion of their children than they actually deserve and that's so often what causes friction. On the other hand more than once I have seen a junior football game where its pretty clear that some spectators are trying to get rid of last night's hangover (Junior football is normally played on a Sunday with club teams and Saturdays or evenings for schools).

 

[British Bulldog]

That's the theory of it but you might just as well say all scout masters are purely interested in developing young minds. In the main that's true but sometimes there are other agendas.

A lot of parents have a higher opinion of their children than they actually deserve and that's so often what causes friction. On the other hand more than once I have seen a junior football game where its pretty clear that some spectators are trying to get rid of last night's hangover (Junior football is normally played on a Sunday with club teams and Saturdays or evenings for schools).

So going back to your first post about opposition parents intimidating the kids from your team, How do you deal with it? I'm interested because i've had to deal with these things many times both as a parent and as an assistant coach!

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

So going back to your first post about opposition parents intimidating the kids from your team, How do you deal with it?

Not me but anyway .....................


................ speak to the referee. He then speaks to their manager - who gives the parents a bollocking.

 

[British Bulldog]

Not me but anyway .....................


................ speak to the referee. He then speaks to their manager - who gives the parents a bollocking.

We had a ref once who gave a parent a red card & sent him to the car park! He did'nt want to go but the ref said "Either you go or I abandon the match" He went!

 

[Deano's Right Foot]

So going back to your first post about opposition parents intimidating the kids from your team, How do you deal with it? I'm interested because i've had to deal with these things many times both as a parent and as an assistant coach!

As someone said before report it to the FA. Believe it or not the local FA investigate these things seriously and do take action.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Sometimes you get parents (or relations) that think they are watching a professional match. One bloke was doing the Ooooooh (without the "you're shite ah) when our keepr was taking his kicks.

A polite word with the ref and their manager - and he apologised profusely. It was bizarre.

 

[Man of Harveys]

Sometimes you get parents (or relations) that think they are watching a professional match. One bloke was doing the Ooooooh (without the "you're shite ah) when our keepr was taking his kicks.

A polite word with the ref and their manager - and he apologised profusely. It was bizarre.

Christ - he was doing this in a match involving children? What the hell are these morons like? Unreal.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Final point - beware boys who've played for lots of different clubs. In my experience they tend to be the ones with pushy and/or potentially violent parents. We've had a couple over the years and most have been moved on again.

All good points from Brovian - but also beware managers who recruit players from teams within the same League.

 

[British Bulldog]

As someone said before report it to the FA. Believe it or not the local FA investigate these things seriously and do take action.

I think a few reports have gone in from managers of both my sons teams in the past but not sure whether anything ever comes of it to be honest. The problem of intimidation allways seems to stem from one gobby ring leader who seems to get other parents following like sheep. Rightly or wrongly the way i've allways dealt with these things in the past is as soon as i spot one of these gobby parents, I'll go to where they are and just walk up & down the touch line talking to our boys & giving them non stop encouragment without the intimidation. I've allways found that brings 1 of 2 results, They either shut up or they try & turn they're intimidation towards me & I just completely ignore it & carry on talking to our boys. Yeah I've had a few threats & some very nasty things said from both mums & dads, But thats the Idea of it because I wont rise to they're bait or sink to they're levels.

 

[bhaexpress]

So going back to your first post about opposition parents intimidating the kids from your team, How do you deal with it? I'm interested because i've had to deal with these things many times both as a parent and as an assistant coach!

Actually aside from restraining people and saying such trite offerings as 'Its not worth it' there wasn't a whole lot I could do. To wade in would be a bit pointless as they were not my children for a start and frankly it would hardly be setting a good example would it ? Two wrongs etc.

I would however urge your club to complain to their respective league management as that's the correct way. It's bloody hard I know and if it was my own children I would imagine that restraint isn't easy.

 

[Beach Hut]

I think Denton have for some reason got extremely poor press out of this they did not deserve.

 

[bhaexpress]

Not me but anyway .....................


................ speak to the referee. He then speaks to their manager - who gives the parents a bollocking.

Once again that's the theory but a lot of junior matches are reffed by people little older than their charges as having pass their Ref Class 3 badge at 16 (or whatever) they cut their teeth refereeing junior matches. As it is the linesmen tend to be a member of each teams parent and they are not always as unbiased as they should be.

I can't see a 16,17 year old giving too much grief to a stroppy adult, it should be dealt with by the trouble maker's own club but so often it isn't.