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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...







MJsGhost

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Jun 26, 2009
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Actually a very interesting read.

It’s an absolute beast. Some of the costs and the logistics of moving the thing are genuinely staggering.

It crushes any road it moves along and they have to be rebuilt 😂

Once picked up a large bulldozer by mistake 😳
Agreed. It weighs roughly the same as the Titanic did. Mental!

Probably best not to think about all the direct and indirect environmental harm it has done with the scale of mining it enables. The post election ditch digging is its chance for redemption.
 




Pinkie Brown

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Sep 5, 2007
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Jim Waterson political editor of the Guardian has scraped Betfair data for a July election. As can be seen there was a huge spike in bets on the 21st May. Sunak called the election on....yep, 22nd May.

This could turn out to be the dumbest betting scam since Doncaster chairman Ken Richardson ran an experienced ringer running about 40 lb light in place of a 2 yr old first timer.

 


chip

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Jul 7, 2003
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Glorious Goodwood
Jim Waterson political editor of the Guardian has scraped Betfair data for a July election. As can be seen there was a huge spike in bets on the 21st May. Sunak called the election on....yep, 22nd May.

This could turn out to be the dumbest betting scam since Doncaster chairman Ken Richardson ran an experienced ringer running about 40 lb light in place of a 2 yr old first timer.


Especially as this isn't a lot of money. Should have gone large
 






Jul 20, 2003
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Laura Saunders who is being investigated by the gambling commission is threatening to sue the BBC for covering the story.

“Breach of her privacy” she claims.

😂😂

The brass neck on the fucker.

Hustings for the constituency where she's standing (Bristol North West) are due tomorrow evening.
The Labour candidate is the excellent Darren Jones. I've seen him a few times taking apart various arseholes in select committees.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Laura Saunders who is being investigated by the gambling commission is threatening to sue the BBC for covering the story.

“Breach of her privacy” she claims.

😂😂

The brass neck on the fucker.
Tough. It’s in the public interest.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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pocketseagull

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The Labour candidate is the excellent Darren Jones. I've seen him a few times taking apart various arseholes in select committees.
You're right he's been impressive in select committees which makes it all the worse that he's been taking on the George Osborne austerity soundbites of 'maxing the nations credit card'. I also found the way he spoke about 'trade-offs' when discussing bringing children out of poverty to be quite horrible, he sounded exactly like a tory.

 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The Conservatives’ former net zero tsar has revealed that he intends to vote Labour for the first time because Rishi Sunak has been “siding with climate deniers” to politicise the energy transition.
 




A1X

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There's no end to it. Another Tory is under investigation by the police. Brendan Clarke-Smith, one of the 2019 Red Wall finest [sic] is under investigation for using a government franking machine (taxpayer funded) to send out personal election campaign letters to his constituents.

Using the office franking machine for personal mail is so old hat. Clarke-Smith wasn't the sharpest of knives so elaborate frauds are probably out his league, to be fair.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke, this one
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Rishi is unconsciously making an unspoken pledge tonight with his performance on Question Time.

The pledge is to limit Tory MP numbers to double figures in the next parliament.

He’s going to smash it.

Get down the bookies and have a flutter on their election wipeout before his cronies get there first drive the odds down!
 
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TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Rishi has absolutely lost the plot

"Rishi Sunak has indicated that young people might face restrictions on access to finance or driving licences if they refuse to do national service, as he faced a TV quizzing from voters.

Asked during a BBC Question Time special what sanctions people could face for declining to take part in the Conservative policy of compulsory national service for all 18-year-olds, the prime minister pointed to “driving licences, or the access to finance, all sorts of other things”.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Rishi has absolutely lost the plot

"Rishi Sunak has indicated that young people might face restrictions on access to finance or driving licences if they refuse to do national service, as he faced a TV quizzing from voters.

Asked during a BBC Question Time special what sanctions people could face for declining to take part in the Conservative policy of compulsory national service for all 18-year-olds, the prime minister pointed to “driving licences, or the access to finance, all sorts of other things”.
It's utterly bonkers. One thing we know that Labour is planning to do is to give votes to 16 and 17 year-olds. So, as well as the 18-23 age group voting for the first time, he's reinforced in the minds of teenagers that the Tories are hostile to them - that's a massive tranche of first-time voters (and their parents) whose votes they could be attracting.

I genuinely don't understand Tories' thinking: everything they do is designed to appeal to 65+, a group of voters that is literally dying out. What future do they have?
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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It's utterly bonkers. One thing we know that Labour is planning to do is to give votes to 16 and 17 year-olds. So, as well as the 18-23 age group voting for the first time, he's reinforced in the minds of teenagers that the Tories are hostile to them - that's a massive tranche of first-time voters (and their parents) whose votes they could be attracting.

I genuinely don't understand Tories' thinking: everything they do is designed to appeal to 65+, a group of voters that is literally dying out. What future do they have?

I think they started from a position of attracting their core vote believing that would be enough. That's not the election, but their general strategy for a few years.

A huge strategic mistake. Once you are in that position it's very hard to move away from it. If you do, whatever new support you glean you piss off and lose some of the core.

In any other line of business, it's a reasonable position but there is usually only one winner in a general election.

I can only suspect their head of strategy is Jim Davidson who has been ahead of the game in his career path.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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It's utterly bonkers. One thing we know that Labour is planning to do is to give votes to 16 and 17 year-olds. So, as well as the 18-23 age group voting for the first time, he's reinforced in the minds of teenagers that the Tories are hostile to them - that's a massive tranche of first-time voters (and their parents) whose votes they could be attracting.

I genuinely don't understand Tories' thinking: everything they do is designed to appeal to 65+, a group of voters that is literally dying out. What future do they have?

Well actually it's a group of voters that is getting bigger all the time, and will keep doing so for another decade or two. It's not a long term strategy, but it should win an election or two in the meantime.

Well, not this one, nor the next one, but possibly the one after that :p
 




Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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Fun fact in the wake of the news Sunak might be the first sitting PM to lose his seat, at the last Labour landslide in 1997 John Major’s, the last decent Tory leader, percentage majority actually went up in Huntingdon.
 


Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
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The Conservatives’ former net zero tsar has revealed that he intends to vote Labour for the first time because Rishi Sunak has been “siding with climate deniers” to politicise the energy transition.
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