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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...









Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Why on Earth would he want guaranteed media exposure at a time that many Tories will be thinking about a change of leader?
Hmmmm...
As I posted a couple of days ago, he would love to be parachuted back in as tory leader, as would 90% of their membership, 60% of their MPs and 30% of the electorate.
 


MJsGhost

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Jun 26, 2009
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As I posted a couple of days ago, he would love to be parachuted back in as tory leader, as would 90% of their membership, 60% of their MPs and 30% of the electorate.
What would be REALLY funny is if he pulled off a coup, so ended up in a safe seat and back as leader...
Cue a sizeable bump in polling numbers compared to Rishi Rich (say 20% better), taking the Tories' haul up to a whopping 40 seats and still beaten into 3rd by the LibDems...

Poor old work shy, power and attention-hungry Boris finds himself with a proper job to do and he's not even leader of the official opposition.

(He'd just resign rather than face years on the periphery wouldn't he, but at least that would be the end of the mendacious waster's career in politics)
 


SeagullsoverLondon

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Jun 20, 2021
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Again and again he thinks normal rules don't apply to him.

The positive from this is he has help publicise to bring Voter ID. We're stuck with it for now, still incredible the legislation was allowed to pass in its current form
He has a bit of previous as far as not following the rules that he himself has announced....
 






Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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I know that Lib Dems tend to do better locally than in general elections, but it will be interesting to see what seats they can take off the Tories in the Southeast come the general election.

There are certainly a lot of traditional Tories in Sussex who would find the Lib Dems much more palatable than Reform as a protest vote. Mid Sussex, Horsham and Chichester also all returned LD largest party in the most recent local elections, in Lewes and Eastbourne the LDs always compete.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Anyone else think this was a publicity stunt? After all, loveable Boris has never shirked away from acting the fool before.
Yep, without a shadow of a doubt. He's probably lurking and working up to a leadership challenge as we speak.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Nope.

I believe he really is that much of a moron. Where do people get this idea that he did it on purpose? The man is a fat useless populist cretin who arrogantly behaves like the rules don't apply to him.

He brought in a law that curtails civil liberties and fixes an issue that didn't exist, purely to restrict the Labour vote. Is it any surprise that the idiot turns up to vote and thought "Oh I forgot my ID. Nevermind, they know who I am"?
For me, it's his previous 'off-the-cuff' stuff that is actually carefully planned/stage managed.

The ruffling of his hair before he goes on stage/screen
The whole 'rocking up late to an after-dinner engagement and seeming unprepared' and then trotting out the same old routine
An 'impromptu' round of teas for waiting journalists when he was (I think) sacked as home sec
The outlandish running gear that either grabs attention or takes it away from something awful
Saying his hobby was paining buses so it would rank higher on search engines than the whole '£350m for the NHS after Brexit' that was on the side of a bus.

And that's just five examples...
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Just heard Sunak blathering on about how many good things he is doing for the country....apparently his " softening " of the ruled on reducing carbon emissions are going too "Save working families 5,10 or 15 Thousand Pounds "... can't wait to get the benefit of that little windfall !... Johnsonesque whopper there !
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Nothing surprises me about the London electorate and the result may be quite close. I had more nuanced thoughts over the last few days.

I'm not predicting it, but a Conservative Mayor in readiness for a Labour Government is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Low turnout and the new voting system may not work well for Sadiq.

Who knows ? voting behaviour can be quite surprising up here.
 




Since1982

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Sep 30, 2006
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I know that Lib Dems tend to do better locally than in general elections, but it will be interesting to see what seats they can take off the Tories in the Southeast come the general election.

There are certainly a lot of traditional Tories in Sussex who would find the Lib Dems much more palatable than Reform as a protest vote. Mid Sussex, Horsham and Chichester also all returned LD largest party in the most recent local elections, in Lewes and Eastbourne the LDs always compete.
Labour and Lib Dem’s neck and neck with the Tories in the new Mid Sussex constituency according to some polls. Certainly won’t be a walkover for the Tories but a good chance the anti Tory vote will split the opposition and allow the shocking Kristy Adams in.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
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Jun 11, 2011
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Nothing surprises me about the London electorate and the result may be quite close. I had more nuanced thoughts over the last few days.

I'm not predicting it, but a Conservative Mayor in readiness for a Labour Government is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Low turnout and the new voting system may not work well for Sadiq.




Who knows ? voting behaviour can be quite surprising up here.

Khan was 1/14 on, Hall was 10/1 at the last showing of odds on Skybet.

The bookies rarely get it that wrong.
 






Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,055
Nothing surprises me about the London electorate and the result may be quite close. I had more nuanced thoughts over the last few days.

I'm not predicting it, but a Conservative Mayor in readiness for a Labour Government is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Low turnout and the new voting system may not work well for Sadiq.

Who knows ? voting behaviour can be quite surprising up here.
One of the fundamental problems with politics these days (or maybe it has always been like this) seems to be the amount of negativity towards candidates, as opposed to people 'selling' themselves to voters. Maybe that's because they are pretty useless to begin with – as Hall seems to be.
 




Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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Spank the Manc
Labour and Lib Dem’s neck and neck with the Tories in the new Mid Sussex constituency according to some polls. Certainly won’t be a walkover for the Tories but a good chance the anti Tory vote will split the opposition and allow the shocking Kristy Adams in.
I hope that's not the case, in Horsham too. Boundary changes could have an impact as the new East Grinstead and Uckfield seat has sucked up more Tory areas of both seats.

I'd love if, for the first time in my life, my hometown doesn't just return another yes-man Tory career politician.

But at this point I'd hazard that the Tories would still be favourites and Quin will cling on.
 






TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The UK government’s climate action plan is unlawful, the high court has ruled, as there is not enough evidence that there are sufficient policies in place to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The energy secretary, Claire Coutinho, will now be expected to draw up a revised plan within 12 months. This must ensure that the UK achieves its legally binding carbon budgets and its pledge to cut emissions by more than two-thirds by 2030, both of which the government is off track to meet.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The Workers Party of Britain (WPB) won its first two council seats in Rochdale, where George Galloway won a byelection in March, PA reports. Labour retained control of the council with 44 seats, after losing two to the WPB, with the Conservatives on nine, Lib Dems on three and two independents.
 


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