[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[WATFORD zero]

If Rwanda is a safe country, why is sending people there supposed to be such a deterrent?

When asking the most obvious simple question blows the whole Government case apart, you have to wonder why 1 in 5 of the British electorate would still back it

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think even Swift would have baulked at putting something as absurd and unbelievable as our gov’s Rwandan policy in one of his books. I have tried to clarify what i meant by ‘safe’ in my reply to Rippleman’s post. He is right of course that one of many flaws in the policy is that we accept asylum seekers from Rwanda (and they need to seek it). The whole thing is just wrong, wrong,wrong.

As wrong as a man in white vest and underpants with a bag of sweets, leering at schoolchildren.

 

[The Clamp]

Well the argument would be they are safe at the first port of call.

As I said, call their bluff, pass the bill and watch it fail

I see your point about calling their bluff and part of me agrees.

However, we cannot allow the Tory’s to ride roughshod over our laws. The law must be upheld.

 

[The Clamp]

I haven’t seen many Tory MP’s Wintering with their families in Rwanda of late.

 

[Hugo Rune]

He would be in there quicker than a rat up a drainpipe if he was offered a peerage.
Lord Haw Haw.

Unfortunately, we both know that Sunak will likely reward him with one in his leaving list.

 

[Ethelwulf]

Down to their lowest polling ever at 19 per cent !!!!!

 

[cheshunt seagull]

If Rwanda is a safe country, why is sending people there supposed to be such a deterrent?

A key question and one that is seldom put to Tory hacks in interviews.

 

[BBassic]

No. You make a good point. I was pondering last night whether the current pathetic childish exchanges between Sunak and Starmer are because we have such a weak Speaker that has lost a lot of respect recently. But it isn't. It's always been this way although perhaps not to the extent it is with these two clowns.

What if the Prime Minister was compelled to ANSWER the questions at Prime Ministers Questions and if he doesn't, the Speaker has the power to hold the PM "in contempt of Parliament" and suspend him from the House. Could well put an end to the childishness and get some proper politics done.

If I were opposition leader I just wouldn't go.

I'd instead spend that time every week in my constituency office talking to real people about their actual problems. Let Sunak and his malcontent band of braying sociopaths guffaw their way through another matinee of PMQs: The Panto

 

[TomandJerry]

James Cleverly, the home secretary, spent £165,561 chartering a private jet for a one-day round trip to Rwanda to sign Rishi Sunak’s deportation deal in Kigali.

The trip took place on 4 December to sign the new deal with the east African state after the supreme court’s finding that Rwanda was an “unsafe country”.

 

[The Clamp]

The Tory’s treat the public purse as a honey pot they can simply dip into when they need to fund one of their confidence tricks.

They should be in prison.

 

[chickens]

Down to their lowest polling ever at 19 per cent !!!!!

Sadly, the polling never precisely matches what happens at an election, but over my lifetime it’s usually been the centre-left vote that has been split between Labour/Lib Dems/Greens.

The Conservatives successfully saw off any threat from UKIP post referendum result by lurching right and expelling most of their centre-right members. However, for the first time at an election, the rightward vote is likely to split between the Conservatives and Reform. This could genuinely hurt them in previously safe seats, and is what Labour has always had to contend with.

I have learnt not to stay up for election results, as not much starts happening until 3am, but I may set the alarm for 5am and have an early breakfast in front of the telly.

 

[TomandJerry]

Sadly, the polling never precisely matches what happens at an election, but over my lifetime it’s usually been the centre-left vote that has been split between Labour/Lib Dems/Greens.

The Conservatives successfully saw off any threat from UKIP post referendum result by lurching right and expelling most of their centre-right members. However, for the first time at an election, the rightward vote is likely to split between the Conservatives and Reform. This could genuinely hurt them in previously safe seats, and is what Labour has always had to contend with.

I have learnt not to stay up for election results, as not much starts happening until 3am, but I may set the alarm for 5am and have an early breakfast in front of the telly.

The polling got the Brexit vote spectacularly wrong...

I'm waiting to see if Reform back down just before the GE also.

 

[Bob!]

...

I'm waiting to see if Reform back down just before the GE also.

This is what I'm expecting. I can't see Brexukipreform putting up enough candidates to take 15% of the vote.

Which will put the Tory vote share in the 30's %

 

[The Clamp]

Sunak trying to “fight dirty”

Waspi campaigner says Sunak on ‘sticky wicket’ asking for votes until he heeds calls for pension compensation – as it happened

Campaigner for Women Against State Pension Inequality says PM has power to bring legislation before parliament

www.theguardian.com

It’s like watching the wimpy kid who hangs around with the bullies mouth off at someone only to turn around and realise there is nobody behind him to back him up.

Can’t wait to see his face the day he has to pack his bags and f*** off, the puny little dingus.

 

[Audax]

Sunak trying to “fight dirty”

Waspi campaigner says Sunak on ‘sticky wicket’ asking for votes until he heeds calls for pension compensation – as it happened

Campaigner for Women Against State Pension Inequality says PM has power to bring legislation before parliament

www.theguardian.com

It’s like watching the wimpy kid who hangs around with the bullies mouth off at someone only to turn around and realise there is nobody behind him to back him up.

Can’t wait to see his face the day he has to pack his bags and f*** off, the puny little dingus.

At what point does Starmer bite back when Sunak trots out the "you have no plan" line with a comeback along the lines of "Windfall tax on energy sector was our idea before yours; removal of non-dom tax breaks was our policy you stole, [etc]. If we have no plan, why do you keep stealing our policies?"

Edit: would be better to say "the only good policies you've implemented have been Labour policies; windfall tax, non-dom removal. If we have no plan, why do you keep stealing our policies?"

 

[TomandJerry]

Hundreds of thousands of students could be left unable to vote if the government calls an October general election, because there may not be enough time to register them, universities and student unions have warned.

 

[TomandJerry]

Councils are increasingly rejecting requests to assess children for special needs such as autism amid the financial crisis in the education system, according to figures seen by the Observer. Long-term underfunding combined with rising demand aggravated by the pandemic has left many councils facing significant deficits on their schools budgets.

 

[nicko31]

Hundreds of thousands of students could be left unable to vote if the government calls an October general election, because there may not be enough time to register them, universities and student unions have warned.

Voter suppression was the only objective with voter ID. The young don’t vote Tory

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Sunak trying to “fight dirty”

Waspi campaigner says Sunak on ‘sticky wicket’ asking for votes until he heeds calls for pension compensation – as it happened

Campaigner for Women Against State Pension Inequality says PM has power to bring legislation before parliament

www.theguardian.com

It’s like watching the wimpy kid who hangs around with the bullies mouth off at someone only to turn around and realise there is nobody behind him to back him up.

Can’t wait to see his face the day he has to pack his bags and f*** off, the puny little dingus.

Small man syndrome. He is a fully paid up member of a non- exclusive club with other odious individuals such as Sadiq Khan..John Bercow and club President Mr. Putin.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

This is what I'm expecting. I can't see Brexukipreform putting up enough candidates to take 15% of the vote.

Which will put the Tory vote share in the 30's %

I think they will keep 100 or so candidates in areas like Stoke etc.