[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[ManOfSussex]

Well I’ll be voting for Schappsy, he always nails it. He’s dead against… (slapheads!) no, he’s dead against (SLAPHEADS!)

IGNORE HIM!

Immigration. It's a political hot potato.

 

[jcdenton08]

Immigration. It's a political hot potato.

And speaking of hot potatoes, they are the subject of this morning’s hot topic. (Hot topic!).

I’m asking, which is truly the hottest potato? Crinkle cut, baked or political?

I’ve got Jeremy on Line One…

 

[nicko31]

The sooner we can flush these turds, the better.

Just a Geebies audition, nothing else

 

[beorhthelm]

Just a Geebies audition, nothing else

reckon Geebeebies is going to have an awful lot of pundits in the next year, maybe more than viewers.

 

[Stato]

By the way… ‘The Five Families’.

If you’re choosing your own nickname and you name yourself after groups of murderous criminals, presumably because you think it sounds cool, you really need to rewatch the Mitchell & Webb ‘Are We The Baddies?’ Nazi sketch.

The Five Families weren’t just in ‘The Godfather’. They were actual gangs of real life murderers and drug dealers. Could you imagine how they’d react if their opponents starting referring to themselves as ‘The Bloods’ and ‘The Crips’? They’re a childish bunch of morons playing games while our country disintegrates on their watch. If they want to name themselves after a murderer of Italian origin, they should use ‘The Emperor Neros’.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Just read his Wikipedia.

Member of the common sense group. Thinks that young men are turning to crime because the BBC cast a woman as Dr. Who.

Oh, by the way, Fletcher is lying about the Don Valley constituency, and not just about A&E. It is 94% UK born British. and 96% white.

 

[Machiavelli]

I’ve been wondering how interested voters are in this topic because the tories seem to be putting all their eggs in one basket on this issue.

When canvassing their core vote, nevermind swing voters, how are they going to be able to spin it as a success?

‘Yes we understand that you can’t pay your mortgage so you’re in danger of losing the property that you’ve worked hard to buy, and that your kids will never be able to buy or even rent one, and can only afford to live on beans and toast because we have crashed the economy, and that you have been on a waiting list for a hip replacement for 13 years because we don’t really do the NHS, and you lost several family members to Covid because we couldn’t do that either but we have come up with a pie in the sky scheme that has cost a fortune, deported no one and deterred no one either’.

Surely they need to be thinking about one or two other policies don’t they?

I kind of think they have. It's 'stop the boats'. It works with far too many, but it's novelty is beginning to wear thin, and more and more are peeling away from it/them.

 

[Cordwainer]

By the way… ‘The Five Families’.

If you’re choosing your own nickname and you name yourself after groups of murderous criminals, presumably because you think it sounds cool, you really need to rewatch the Mitchell & Webb ‘Are We The Baddies?’ Nazi sketch.

The Five Families weren’t just in ‘The Godfather’. They were actual gangs of real life murderers and drug dealers. Could you imagine how they’d react if their opponents starting referring to themselves as ‘The Bloods’ and ‘The Crips’? They’re a childish bunch of morons playing games while our country disintegrates on their watch. If they want to name themselves after a murderer of Italian origin, they should use ‘The Emperor Neros’.

Utterly pathetic aren’t they? And when you meet one in the flesh as I had the misfortune to a while back, you come away perplexed that they were able to dress themselves on their own let alone ‘run’ the country.
The Prosciutto Cotto Clan would be an appropriate Italian derived name I believe.

 

[Machiavelli]

Just because we have a rubbish government, doesn’t mean the other options at the time would’ve been more successful. Under Cameron it was comparative halcyon days compared to what we’ve got now. If you’re thinking of a snarky reply to that, I direct you to re-read the word “comparative” again.

This election it’s a clear cut choice, get a terrible, deeply unpopular government out and a steady, moderate leader of the a moderate opposition into government.

No more right wing nutters, no left wing nutters to replace them. Finally some calm, boring and grey stability for the next decade please as we try and rebuild our economy and national image.

Rather than drawing comparisons, I see connections.
Without Cameron and Osborne turning up and saying 'Labour crashed the economy', 'the cupboard is bare', etc, and inflicting austerity on the public we wouldn't be where we are now.
I had several disagreements with posters on here about the efficacy of austerity. Many have now conceded that it doesn't really work in a downtime. We've had near to zero growth* in the meantime, with the latest GDP figures showing a 0.3% decline in output. We're in a no/low growth regime. At the same time, we're in an accelerating inequality regime. Osborne and Cameron are highly culpable for all of this (even if they did one or two good things, eg introducing progressive rates of stamp duty but, then again, Johnson has done one or two good things in a mire of merde).
Austerity didn't even work on its own terms, and Cameron and Osborne claimed that they would have eliminated the deficit by the end of their first term: they didn't. Instead, at the end of their first term, to deal with the utter failure of their own flagship policy we got the offer of an in/out referendum on EU membership, alongside the rhetoric of 'chaos with Ed Miliband'.
I could go on, but whereas you want to draw comparisons, I see continuity.

 

[A1X]

As a reminder, this was after a question about a young homeless boy who was worried whether Santa would find him

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

As a reminder, this was after a question about a young homeless boy who was worried whether Santa would find him

He did this twice. Once in response to the question about the poor boy where his response didn't even include a single reference to the boy but a look at his notes before Rishibot 2.0 kicked in with "YEAH....YEAH....BUT WHAT ABOUT LABOUR!?". Unbelievable that he didn't even say "Of course, hearing of situations like this is...."

The second time was when Starmer finished PMQs by wishing a Happy New Year. Such an odd response. Clearly was told to finish "with passion" but completely the wrong situation to do it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

More about Nick Fletcher, blocking constituents on social media if they ask questions, dare to criticise, demanding respect from them, and setting up fake profiles to praise him, as evidenced by Doncaster FreePress.

 

[Cotton Socks]

The most recent figures I can find is Dec 2022 for Doncaster Royal Infirmary.

Patients waited an average of five hours and 32 minutes to be either admitted to an inpatient ward, transferred elsewhere or discharged from hospital.


Meanwhile, the shortest waits were between 9am and 10am on Thursdays, when patients waited an average of two hours and 29 minutes.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/health/these-are-the-busiest-times-of-the-week-at-doncaster-and-bassetlaw-teaching-hospitals-trust-ae-3952589

I went to Doncaster for a weekend at the end of August, for a friend's Diamond Wedding anniversary. We had a river trip on the Don. He is talking out of the back of his neck.
He is the first Tory to be elected to this area, with a small 3K majority. I suspect he will be out of work at the next election.

Well I'm very pleased that taxpayers are going to continue paying his wages for a couple of months. It would also be very distressing to hear that he might have to claim Universal Credit & wait 5 weeks for any money. I'm also very happy that taxpayers will help find him a job because if he had to receive UC he'd be at risk of being sanctioned.

 

[jimhigham]

Why? Because people have very, very short memories. Labour need to be highlighting the Tory’s criminality and corruption in a sustained and continuous fashion.

…and because they have short memories, there’s no harm at all saving the battering for the short sprint to the finish line of a General Election campaign.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

As a reminder, this was after a question about a young homeless boy who was worried whether Santa would find him

 

[jcdenton08]

He’s doing “strong and coming out fighting” schtick that leaders do when they know they’re seen as weak.

 

[Lever]

 

[Springal]

Made me laugh

 

[pb21]

Made me laugh

Wasn't Truss going to "deliver, deliver, deliver", thought Sunak had a different slogan?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Another corrupt MP suspended