[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Hugo Rune]

Has put the anti-woke agenda at the forefront of her campaign.

No sooner than announcing her candidacy on Peston, she was already targeting division, cultures wars and trans people with some incoherent rant about people across the country being sacked from their employment for describing people by their biological sex.

Is that really one of the top issues in the Country?

Sure that will work on the thickest, nastiest Tories but I imagine a lot of those ‘never voted before’ knuckle draggers will never vote again now that the Tories have knifed their hero. They are hardly likely to vote for an ethnic minority either.

What a dangerously awful women she is.

 

[lawros left foot]

No sooner than announcing her candidacy on Peston, she was already targeting division, cultures wars and trans people with some incoherent rant about people across the country being sacked from their employment for describing people by their biological sex.

Is that really one of the top issues in the Country?

Sure that will work on the thickest, nastiest Tories but I imagine a lot of those ‘never voted before’ knuckle draggers will never vote again now that the Tories have knifed their hero. They are hardly likely to vote for an ethnic minority either.

What a dangerously awful women she is.

On Thursday when all the resignations were happening I had a conversation with a very nice lady. I was saying to Mrs LLF that Johnson would be slinging his hook soon, and this lady said, and I quote “Oh, it’s such a shame, he’s done so much for us”. When I asked what he’d done for us, I got the usual, got Brexit done, vaccines, blah, blah, blah, straight off the Daily Mail playlist. I did ask her if she thought that Brexit was a success, who did she really think organised the vaccine roll out, if residents of care homes should have been sent back to care homes without testing, etc. She said that the last election was the first one she had ever voted in, and she only voted because of Johnson, and said he was a buffoon but he made her laugh.

I said Mr Tumble ( the real one, not Wilf) was a buffoon, would she have voted for him?

That’s different, apparently.
Anyway, she’s never going to vote again, because of the way this has all turned out.
I can’t say I’m unhappy with that.

 

[rogersix]

Has put the anti-woke agenda at the forefront of her campaign.

because that's the biggest problem we face today

 

[Motogull]

I had been wondering why there was this sudden turning of the tide so soon after the VOC result.

Then it fell into place. Imagine how hacked off you'd be to discover you'd had your arm twisted to change your vote by a sexual deviant that the bungle**** didn't care about, knew about and asked him to do that for him?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I see Steve Baker has dropped out and will be supporting Suella Braverman, a woman whose only redeeming feature is that her name sounds a bit like Floella Benjamin.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.


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Baker running would have been interesting to see where the Tory party is on Brexit, he is a hard core brexiteer and I’m assuming he would have run on this.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I had been wondering why there was this sudden turning of the tide so soon after the VOC result.

Then it fell into place. Imagine how hacked off you'd be to discover you'd had your arm twisted to change your vote by a sexual deviant that the bungle**** didn't care about, knew about and asked him to do that for him?

The turning wasn't sudden.
It's been coming for a while.

The idea he knew Pincher was a Perv was the tipping point, is ridiculous, in comparison to what they already knew about him.
I doubt any of them weren't fully aware about Pincher's proclivities.

I suspect all of the events of the past few weeks have been orchestrated.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

To top it all, Pincher is still an MP.


The reward for keeping your mouth shut, and not speaking out against Johnson is - Maria Caulfield is now Health Minister.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Has anyone talked about Andrea Jenkyns being appointed parliamentary under secretary of state at the Department for Education literally a day after flipping the bird at the British public?

It's there for all the world to see.

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When questioned, the mantra is getting on with the job. What job are they actually getting on with? Answers on a postage stamp.

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[TomandJerry]

Sorry for anyone who's about to eat, but...

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[Bry Nylon]

Exactly the type of boorish, arrogant and disrespectful behaviour everyone is heartily sick of when it comes to this dysfunctional and out of touch government. And the fact that she is an Education minister just compounds it. She should be gone by lunchtime but of course she won’t be. Just ‘apologise and consider the matter closed’ eh? Doesn’t that cover pretty much cover any wrong doing these days?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

On Thursday when all the resignations were happening I had a conversation with a very nice lady. I was saying to Mrs LLF that Johnson would be slinging his hook soon, and this lady said, and I quote “Oh, it’s such a shame, he’s done so much for us”. When I asked what he’d done for us, I got the usual, got Brexit done, vaccines, blah, blah, blah, straight off the Daily Mail playlist. I did ask her if she thought that Brexit was a success, who did she really think organised the vaccine roll out, if residents of care homes should have been sent back to care homes without testing, etc. She said that the last election was the first one she had ever voted in, and she only voted because of Johnson, and said he was a buffoon but he made her laugh.

I said Mr Tumble ( the real one, not Wilf) was a buffoon, would she have voted for him?

That’s different, apparently.
Anyway, she’s never going to vote again, because of the way this has all turned out.
I can’t say I’m unhappy with that.

Ok, but how do you know she is representative of the increased Tory support ? You are rather dismissing the people who voted Tory to preserve our departure from the EU. We are not knuckle draggers. We voted Tory as they were the only party offering this option. Three years on and remaining outside the EU is now the consensus in both major parties so that issue is now neutralized and many floating voters (particularly in the north) should gravitate back to Labour. You may not take the leaving EU viewpoint seriously but clearly the Labour leadership does.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

They have been for some time actually.

Unlike QT or 5Live who can easily ‘rent-an-idiot’, the BBC simply can’t find the sort of Times, Telegraph, Guardian or Independent reading listeners to be in the audience to vocally support this lot on Any Questions. They have totally lost the educated classes (with the exception of those making a lot of money out of PPE deals or backhanders etc).

As a teacher I find that incredibly elitist, contemptuous and not at all inclusive. Sums up what is wrong with modern political debate, especially on NSC. Cue lots of abuse but it needs saying.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Baker running would have been interesting to see where the Tory party is on Brexit, he is a hard core brexiteer and I’m assuming he would have run on this.

He admitted on the news this morning that it was made clear to him that he had nowhere near the support needed. That's why he is now behind thick joint Braverman.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Ok, but how do you know she is representative of the increased Tory support ? You are rather dismissing the people who voted Tory to preserve our departure from the EU. We are not knuckle draggers. We voted Tory as they were the only party offering this option. Three years on and remaining outside the EU is now the consensus in both major parties so that issue is now neutralized and many floating voters (particularly in the north) should gravitate back to Labour. You may not take the leaving EU viewpoint seriously but clearly the Labour leadership does.

When Brexit is actually implemented and all the checks and customs associated with it start, it could be interesting times.

 

[lawros left foot]

Ok, but how do you know she is representative of the increased Tory support ? You are rather dismissing the people who voted Tory to preserve our departure from the EU. We are not knuckle draggers. We voted Tory as they were the only party offering this option. Three years on and remaining outside the EU is now the consensus in both major parties so that issue is now neutralized and many floating voters (particularly in the north) should gravitate back to Labour. You may not take the leaving EU viewpoint seriously but clearly the Labour leadership does.

Where have I said that she is a representative of the increased Tory support?

What I have said is this first time Tory voter, voted Tory because “Boris made me laugh”
It would be like me saying I voted Labour because I prefer the colour red , to blue.
In fact, it’s worse than that, prior to the 2019 election, the colour red have never persistently lied to it’s employers, and was a serial cheat to their wives.
His personality faults were hardly a secret before the election.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Where have I said that she is a representative of the increased Tory support?

What I have said is this first time Tory voter, voted Tory because “Boris made me laugh”
It would be like me saying I voted Labour because I prefer the colour red , to blue.
In fact, it’s worse than that, prior to the 2019 election, the colour red have never persistently lied to it’s employers, and was a serial cheat to their wives.
His personality faults were hardly a secret before the election.

Indeed. I've made this analogy before. Boris is the class clown which makes it difficult for the kids to hate him, even when he's abusing them because he's making them and all their friends laugh. This gets him onto the school council, whereupon the sensible kids realise that instead of arguing for extra playtime, better funding or clearer text books he's creaming off a slice of the lunch money and shitting in the sandpit.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Where have I said that she is a representative of the increased Tory support?

What I have said is this first time Tory voter, voted Tory because “Boris made me laugh”
It would be like me saying I voted Labour because I prefer the colour red , to blue.
In fact, it’s worse than that, prior to the 2019 election, the colour red have never persistently lied to it’s employers, and was a serial cheat to their wives.
His personality faults were hardly a secret before the election.

If you weren’t making a wider point then what was the point of your anecdote ? One of my family members voted Remain because she thought David Cameron was a nice man. Should I be drawing broad conclusions?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

If you weren’t making a wider point then what was the point of your anecdote ? One of my family members voted Remain because she thought David Cameron was a nice man. Should I be drawing broad conclusions?

Sounds like a more dangerous version of William Hill on grand national day


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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

As a teacher I find that incredibly elitist, contemptuous and not at all inclusive. Sums up what is wrong with modern political debate, especially on NSC. Cue lots of abuse but it needs saying.

You are making the mistake of assuming that because you are educated and voted Leave this makes you representative of (an identifiable minority, even if a minority it may be) Leave voters. I work at one of the top 5 universities in the UK, and have chatted with hundreds of colleagues about Brexit and none of them (claim to have) voted Leave. Of my wider acquaintance I know only one Leave voter, and he now regrets his vote as all the business red tape he was expecting to melt has reproduced, hydra-like.

When I was a working class lad and got my first sensible job (between degrees) I read the Daily Mirror and Private Eye. My line manage (who read The Times and Private Eye) couldn't get his head around me. I was under no illusions that I was representative of anything. And there is no need to be, albeit when we find we are it can seem comforting.

As far as elitism is concerned, I'm in favour of those with a good education and working mind to take the lead on issues. The day I start looking to gobshites, cretins and Nigel Farrage for inspiration is the day I hold up my hand and admit to the early signs of vascular dementia.

I would also add that yes Starmer has declared he won't reverse Brexit. Despite the short-term gain I suspect this may have the potential to be a hostage to fortune. However it is expedient to make such a declaration, and it is far less a mendacious assertion than most of those made that persuaded the likes of educated you to vote for Johnson. I suspect you are right in that some sort of settled Brexit arrangements will emerge (even though I cannot immediately see how - NI) and this will truly be a dead issue. But it isn't quit, yet. We shall see.

Enjoy your weekend. At the end of the day it's a wonderful thing to be alive .

 

[Tom Bombadil]

As a teacher I find that incredibly elitist, contemptuous and not at all inclusive. Sums up what is wrong with modern political debate, especially on NSC. Cue lots of abuse but it needs saying.

You're a teacher? crikey