[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[birthofanorange]

I've been called plenty of things but that is below the belt!!

Never thought I'd be compared to Jimmy Saville by anyone

You weren't being compared to him, at all.

 

[darkwolf666]

Given the general political leanings of NSC, a separate thread for those who voted for Boris in 2019 would be a far more interesting read for me, as I'm sure the majority on this one despised Boris from the start.

I am one of those who voted for Boris in 2019. For me, it's a regrettable hour. At the end of the day his character, which the public already knew when they voted him in with an enormous majority 2.5 years ago, has been his downfall. However, most of the mistakes he's made have been in conjunction with the failings of others in the Conservative Party - Cummings, those in Downing Street, Paterson, Pincher. Of course, many of those he employed himself, but others were MPs, voted in by the British public. It reminds me a bit of Manchester United under Ole last season. Yes Ole and the board were ultimately to blame for United's poor performance, but the players have just as much culpability.

The Conservative Party is a mess and whilst the responsibility ultimately lies at Boris' feet for it as leader, I can't see it magically recovering under a new leader as the rest of the party have acted just as abhorrently. Nadhim Zahawi exemplifies this. Who on earth, in any other sphere or job in life, would accept a job from their boss and the next day tell their boss to resign? That's less integrity right there than the man they're claiming to have none! The last two Conservative PM's have been forced to resign, which tells you the viperous state of the party.

Like United, I can't see Boris' successor turning things around. I think I would have preferred a General Election than a leadership contest. Anyone but Rishi for the Conservatives would leave me in a serious quandary if there was an election tomorrow. If Labour actually had some policies I'd be tempted to vote for Keir as I don't mind him as an individual, however much I currently dislike the rest of his party.

There’s another equally good thread here https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?374270-Boris-Johnson-the-new-UK-Prime-Minister where some people had some amazing clarity as to how things would unfold.

 

[schmunk]

Never thought I'd be linked to Jimmy Saville about anything

That's... ...not what HWT said.

 

[Icy Gull]

You weren't being compared to him, at all.

True, edited

 

[TomandJerry]

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/sta...gnations-today-conservatives-uk-politics-live

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[Icy Gull]

That's... ...not what HWT said.

I was being touchy, it's the second time he's made reference to Jimmy Saville in a reply to me on this thread today.

 

[schmunk]

I was being touchy, it's the second time he's made reference to Jimmy Saville in a reply to me on this thread today.

Aha! So now you're admitting you HAVE been compared to Jimmy Savile before!

 

[pb21]

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/sta...gnations-today-conservatives-uk-politics-live

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Not sure he is the right person for the job. Given that, as he said, his wife plans to move back to India at some point (to look after her ageing parents), and that he will presumably join her, and this could happen at any time, can he be committed to being PM.

Also see that Gove has ruled himself out, maybe worried about any pre-requisite drugs testing?

 

[Lever]

I saw this and thought I'd pop back to post it

My point was that the Russians disliked him above all other World leaders, not that he saved us from anyone, seems he gave some hope to the beleaguered Ukranians too.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...sedgntp&cvid=d8052e9babee40599e6b3f45fdf9dbb5

Given that Boris Johnston's character is transparently clear, do you think it's possible to ascribe a motivation for his herculean Ukrainian effort? Was it purely compassion do you think?

 

[TomandJerry]

Not sure he is the right person for the job. Given that, as he said, his wife plans to move back to India at some point (to look after her ageing parents), and that he will presumably join her, and this could happen at any time, can he be committed to being PM.

Also see that Gove has ruled himself out, maybe worried about any pre-requisite drugs testing?

JRM has ruled himself out also.

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[Kinky Gerbil]

He’s clearly got a plan to try and stay.

Till he’s out he’s plotting to stay

 

[pb21]

He’s clearly got a plan to try and stay.

Till he’s out he’s plotting to stay

Its realistically impossible for him to stay as PM now.

 

[TomandJerry]

Ministers left the cabinet meeting hosted by Boris Johnson “tight-lipped”, refusing to give any hints about the nature or atmosphere of the meeting, PA reports

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[rogersix]

1100+ pages. & finally this thread is correct

If only bunglcunt had some integrity, it would've been a dozen

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Not sure he is the right person for the job. Given that, as he said, his wife plans to move back to India at some point (to look after her ageing parents), and that he will presumably join her, and this could happen at any time, can he be committed to being PM.

Also see that Gove has ruled himself out, maybe worried about any pre-requisite drugs testing?

I'm not sure he's the right person for the job because of his credentials, his ability, his understanding of 99% of the British people and how they live or his morals.

 

[Hugo Rune]

He’s clearly got a plan to try and stay.

Till he’s out he’s plotting to stay

Yes, that was a speech from a man with a plan.

Politically speaking, he is bordering on genius. With such an absence of leadership skills including judgement, accountability and integrity, it’s still shocking that he has bumbled his way to the top job.

The 1922 will know this though. Let’s hope that they are planning a very swift contest that automatically disqualifies his candidacy. The government will be in turmoil until he is gone. I wonder what next week’s controversy is going to be (and the months after that whilst he clings on)?

 

[TomandJerry]

Yes, that was a speech from a man with a plan.

Politically speaking, he is bordering on genius. With such an absence of leadership skills including judgement, accountability and integrity, it’s still shocking that he has bumbled his way to the top job.

The 1922 will know this though. Let’s hope that they are planning a very swift contest that automatically disqualifies his candidacy. The government will be in turmoil until he is gone. I wonder what next week’s controversy is going to be (and the months after that whilst he clings on)?

He could, potentially, call a snap election.

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[hart's shirt]

As regards the delayed departure of Johnson from No 10...

Leave means Leave.

Get Exit done.

 

[Machiavelli]

https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/1545072429927727109?s=20&t=KnOWTZ3uoRzoijNjDqNKFw

Think this is called saying something without literally saying it.

 

[rogersix]

He is definitely a gonna, so, employment wise, what an earth will he do now?