[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Darren Jones just read a quote about the duty of a leader to quit when all is lost and all the leader has left is the imperative to save his own skin. He asked Johnson who wrote the quote. Johnson didn't know and suggested Cicero.

"It was you, prime minister!" said Jones.

Unbelievable.

(Note I incorrectly attributed the exchange above to another labour MP, based on the lable shown on the BBC broadcast. I have corrected the attribution in this post. [MENTION=3651]Leekbrookgull[/MENTION] take note)

 

[nicko31]

Johnson does not give two shits. He's being grilled by a committee and simply spaffing and smirking. Extraordinary stuff. Shameful stuff.

Could Johnson call an election and take the party down with him ?

He will try anything…

 

[dolphins]

Nice timing from Merriman, tweeting his letter of no confidence while in the committee! Admittedly he might have someone doing it for him, but even so.

Standards/integrity I believe concludes the session. Must get the popcorn ready.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Could Johnson call an election and take the party down with him ?

Why? He thinks he's the Big Dog and will carry on until he's constitutionally removed from office. He won't call a general election.

 

[KZNSeagull]

BBC resignation ticker goes up to 32

 

[A1X]

Could Johnson call an election and take the party down with him ?

He will try anything…

I actually think this is a likely outcome if he loses the vote. "I'll show you, the public love me!"

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well worth listening to Johnson here, now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

The degree of self-assurance that Johnson exudes when busking an answer to a question about which he knows nothing is an extraordinary thing to behold.

Just watch. A conman supreme.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Being grilled now about the most recent lies.

And we have the opportunity to watch him evolve new lies before our eyes. A wonder to behold.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Chris Bryant just read a quote about the duty of a leader to quit when all is lost and all the leader has left is the imperative to save his own skin. He asked Johnson who wrote the quote. Johnson didn't know and suggested Cicero.

"It was you, prime minister!" said Bryant.

Unbelievable.

Doesn't C/B have plenty of baggage regards expenses etc?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I really didn’t. I went to work. I am still not engaging with this argument as I will continue to make my own points and respond to others as I choose rather than on demand. Much like everyone else. The trouble is on this issue people feel entitled to their aggressive demands. I am happy to continue correcting a few misconceptions from people such as yourself on this particular part of the issue. Keep going.

You really did and I wasn’t the only one to notice.
I called you out on your comment regards Brexit, you didn’t like it, basically flounced and accused me of being aggressive.
You now say you won’t engage because I’m am being demanding.

So basically, you won’t engage because you have no argument for my earlier comments and now have a ‘sad on’.
It should be pointed out that at least three others asked you to defend your position which you have declined ….


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[lawros left foot]

Just a quick question for the Brexitty types on here.

If it’s okay for Brexit supporting MPs to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote so soon, why is it anti- democratic to to ask for a second Brexit referendum?

 

[nicko31]

I actually think this is a likely outcome if he loses the vote. "I'll show you, the public love me!"

Remember he is the ultimate narcissist

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Genuine ask in 2010 the Libs went into coalition with the Tories, what was the stumbling block with Labour and agreement?

 

[Is it PotG?]

And back onto ignore.

Imagine totting up 17k posts in five years and then imagine 99% of them being utterly pointless. Pathetic.

Peace.

Awwwww.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Chris Bryant just read a quote about the duty of a leader to quit when all is lost and all the leader has left is the imperative to save his own skin. He asked Johnson who wrote the quote. Johnson didn't know and suggested Cicero.

"It was you, prime minister!" said Bryant.

Unbelievable.

The TV said it was Chris Bryant but it wasn't. I think it was Darren Jones. Chris Bryant hasn't spoken yet, he will be up shortly I'm sure. Should be fun.

 

[dolphins]

BoZo getting pissed off!

 

[Audax]

[tweet]1544703938506772481[/tweet]

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Doesn't C/B have plenty of baggage regards expenses etc?

No. He has a tiny amount of baggage from more than 13 years ago. He flipped his second-home expenses twice. He's not on the list of the expenses scandal sinners:


Conservative Derek Conway was alleged in May 2007 to have paid his son, a student at the time, using public funds despite little evidence of his having done the work he was supposed to. The matter was forwarded to the House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee, whose report dated 28 January 2008 concluded there was no record of such work. Conway was suspended for 10 days and ordered to repay £13,000.[25] Conway was also expelled from the party. A second case a year later found he had overpaid with regard to his other son.[26]
Chairman of the Conservative Party Caroline Spelman was alleged in June 2008 to have paid for her nanny out of parliamentary expenses during her early years in Parliament, between 1997 and 1998[27]—an allegation that became known as 'Nannygate'. It was ruled that she had inadvertently 'misapplied part of [her] parliamentary allowances', but calls for her sacking were rebutted since she might not have been aware of the rules governing the use or purpose of parliamentary allowances. The committee recommended that Spelman repay £9,600.[28]
Married couple and Labour Cabinet ministers Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper were accused in September 2007 of exploiting the Commons' allowances system in order to pay for a £655,000 house in London. The complaint, centring on the gain made by allocation of their 'second house', was dismissed since it was held the couple had acted in accordance with parliamentary rules.[29]
Married Conservative MPs Sir Nicholas and Lady Winterton were accused in June 2008 of claiming back mortgage interest on a mortgage they had fully repaid, on a flat they owned in London, and then also placing the flat in trust and claiming for the rent on it.[30] It was held there had been a clear breach of the rules, but no repayment was ordered.[citation needed]
Labour Home Secretary Jacqui Smith was stated to have claimed for her main home by designating it as a second home, while identifying as her main home a location where she spent as little as 2 days a week, and despite also having access to a ‘grace and favour’ home in Westminster. No investigation was held, however, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards stating there was 'not sufficient evidence for an inquiry'.
Labour minister Tony McNulty admitted claiming expenses for a second home in Harrow, 8 miles from his main home in Hammersmith, and asserted they were appropriate, but ceased claiming the allowances.[31] Under continuing pressure, he apologised to the House for expenses abuses on 29 October 2009.
Conservative MP Eric Pickles likewise was identified as claiming for a second home 37 miles from his main home.[32]

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The TV said it was Chris Bryant but it wasn't. I think it was Darren Jones. Chris Bryant hasn't spoken yet, he will be up shortly I'm sure. Should be fun.

Yes, you're correct.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

You really did and I wasn’t the only one to notice.
I called you out on your comment regards Brexit, you didn’t like it, basically flounced and accused me of being aggressive.
You now say you won’t engage because I’m am being demanding.

So basically, you won’t engage because you have no argument for my earlier comments and now have a ‘sad on’.
It should be pointed out that at least three others asked you to defend your position which you have declined ….


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You should reread what you have just written and see if you understand the concept of demanding. This morning I simply said to you that I won’t engage when my view is called stupid. I still won’t engage with you on this issue and haven’t for some years now. No change really but I’m happy to keep reminding you why. Keep going.