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Bodian

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:lolol:

I also understand that if we were still in the EU we could have legally deported these refugees to France, is that correct?

This is literally like living in an episode of The Thick of It!

It really isn't a laughing matter. But - yes, I laughed when I read this.
 




The Clamp

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Immigrants are reportedly terrified of being transported to a third world country with a corrupt government and an uncertain future in a country that is not economically viable...

I don't need to finish that one, do I?
 




A1X

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One of the passengers who was taken off, is a 19 yr old Afghan whose whole family is already here in Britain.

Realistically to never see his family again. There is no route back to the UK from Rwanda once there.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Home secretary Priti Patel said she was disappointed the flight to Rwanda was not able to leave but would not be “deterred from doing the right thing”.

She added: “Our legal team are reviewing every decision made on this flight and preparation for the next flight begins now.”

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pb21

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It really isn't a laughing matter. But - yes, I laughed when I read this.

You're of course correct, there are real people being very much affected by this shitehousery. The amount of stress, turmoil and uncertainty must be massive, important to remember that.
 


Bodian

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You're of course correct, there are real people being very much affected by this shitehousery. The amount of stress, turmoil and uncertainty must be massive, important to remember that.

Yes - wasn't a dig at you, more of a feeling that I was letting myself down - but couldn't help it!
 


darkwolf666

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Home secretary Priti Patel said she was disappointed the flight to Rwanda was not able to leave but would not be “deterred from doing the right thing”.

She added: “Our legal team are reviewing every decision made on this flight and preparation for the next flight begins now.”

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Erm, what point doesn’t she get, there WASN’T a flight - her government’s plans have been found out for what they are!
 




Jim in the West

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:lolol:

I also understand that if we were still in the EU we could have legally deported these refugees to France, is that correct?

This is literally like living in an episode of The Thick of It!

That is (mostly) true - but we could still apply to be part of the Dublin Agreement - Norway and Switzerland are part of it, even though not in the EU. However, the government doesn’t want to look at sensible solutions like that, because they need to keep up the war on immigration….it is their only way of winning the next election.
 


Seagull27

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One of the passengers who was taken off, is a 19 yr old Afghan whose whole family is already here in Britain.
I read on the BBC that one of the original 37 was an Iranian police commander who fled the country after he refused to shoot protestors during anti-government demonstrations.

It's astounding. Let's ignore for one moment how unempathetic and ignorant you'd have to be to set up this scheme, as we all know Patel has less morality than Lord Voldemort.

The amazing thing is the sheer ineptitude. Of all the asylum seekers they could've chosen, for their flagship first flight you would've thought they'd have been able to find just 37 who had no connections here, didn't really have a traumatic back story and were just chancers looking for a handout - after all, we're led to believe the majority of them are just that. You'd do your homework to make sure there was as little chance possible of there being any legal objections for these individuals. Surely.
 


darkwolf666

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I read on the BBC that one of the original 37 was an Iranian police commander who fled the country after he refused to shoot protestors during anti-government demonstrations.

It's astounding. Let's ignore for one moment how unempathetic and ignorant you'd have to be to set up this scheme, as we all know Patel has less morality than Lord Voldemort.

The amazing thing is the sheer ineptitude. Of all the asylum seekers they could've chosen, for their flagship first flight you would've thought they'd have been able to find just 37 who had no connections here, didn't really have a traumatic back story and were just chancers looking for a handout - after all, we're led to believe the majority of them are just that. You'd do your homework to make sure there was as little chance possible of there being any legal objections for these individuals. Surely.

I think the current vernacular is - nah!
 




Eric the meek

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I read on the BBC that one of the original 37 was an Iranian police commander who fled the country after he refused to shoot protestors during anti-government demonstrations.

It's astounding. Let's ignore for one moment how unempathetic and ignorant you'd have to be to set up this scheme, as we all know Patel has less morality than Lord Voldemort.

The amazing thing is the sheer ineptitude. Of all the asylum seekers they could've chosen, for their flagship first flight you would've thought they'd have been able to find just 37 who had no connections here, didn't really have a traumatic back story and were just chancers looking for a handout - after all, we're led to believe the majority of them are just that. You'd do your homework to make sure there was as little chance possible of there being any legal objections for these individuals. Surely.

There are two, no three, possibilities:

a) she is indeed inept, and didn't countenance the possibility that her scheme could fail so spectacularly
b) there was a worrying absence of chancers in the migrant group
c) both of the above

My money's on c).
 


clapham_gull

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If you put the politics and ideology to one side, it's the complete ineptitude to fulfil a promise.

They've only got away with it so far by blaming others.

Solicitors can't block anything. They can only point out to judges and juries where a law has potentially been broken.
 


Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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What exactly is 'Brexit done well' then?

Staying outside the EU and inside the EEA.

The EEA is a trade zone. Gove said we'd be part of it. Hannon said no one was even talking about leaving it.

As an aside don't fall for the big "rule takers" lie.

A handy guide :

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And :

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The Clamp

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If you put the politics and ideology to one side, it's the complete ineptitude to fulfil a promise.

They've only got away with it so far by blaming others.

Solicitors can't block anything. They can only point out to judges and juries where a law has potentially been broken.

Yep. Once again the government broke the law. Once again, they got caught.
 




Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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You gotta love potg. He is on a one-man crusade to get get us all believe that Borris is doing good and Sir Kier is the bad one.. [emoji3]

He is not even trying to be a wum, its what he actually believes. Each to their own I suppose.
I'm convinced potg is one of the Johnny "4 accounts" Genius quartet.
 


clapham_gull

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I know some are older, but I lived through Thatcher and everything that came after.

As you get older you see both the negatives and positives of every regime, often clearing up the mess from the one before and invariably getting into a mess themselves.

Even those in the 80s who hated Thatcher accepted she was taking the country "forward", they simply disagreed what her vision of the future looked liked. This lot are dragging the country into the dark ages.

They unashamedly appeal to hatred, prejudice and division with a populist tax payer funded cheque book to divert attention. This is the first of all those Governments I have known that I can only describe as vile and I don't use that word lightly.

Labour were severely tainted and damaged by Corbyn, but Brexit has completely re-invented the Conservative party. In attempting to win back the far-right populist vote they've become them.

No idea where they go from here, there isn't any "nasty" votes left to absorb.

Tommy Robinson backs them, that's all you need to know. It's probably going to take an election (and a decade in opposition) for the party to correct itself for the sake of democracy.
 
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