[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[rippleman]

Pushing for police action will have backfired if there’s no more fines for Johnson and Starmer ends up with the same amount.

Ah! But we don't know if Johnson got any further fines as Dick is covering up all the names of those fined.

We are reliant on Johnson telling us if he got another one. Given that this is a man who has built his entire career on lying (and if he can lie to HM he will lie to anybody) do you really trust him to start telling the truth now? If you do, more fool you.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It will be buried underneath the Russia Report. The question is also "where is the Russia Report?"

Hiding behind the security report on advice over Lebedev's peerage, which is weeks overdue. This is contempt of Parliament.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Ah! But we don't know if Johnson got any further fines as Dick is covering up all the names of those fined.

We are reliant on Johnson telling us if he got another one. Given that this is a man who has built his entire career on lying (and if he can lie to HM he will lie to anybody) do you really trust him to start telling the truth now? If you do, more fool you.

Dick left the building a while back.

 

[Smirko]

Ah! But we don't know if Johnson got any further fines as Dick is covering up all the names of those fined.

We are reliant on Johnson telling us if he got another one. Given that this is a man who has built his entire career on lying (and if he can lie to HM he will lie to anybody) do you really trust him to start telling the truth now? If you do, more fool you.

Confirmed he and Wifey did not receive any more fines

 

[Hugo Rune]

126 fines for his address, makes his lies about there being no parties fairly straightforward.

It’s 126 people whom have been fined. Some of those have been fined more than once. Will we ever find out how many fines the PM got?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

It’s 126 people whom have been fined. Some of those have been fined more than once. Will we ever find out how many fines the PM got?

One fine.

Had a lot more impact before the police got involved.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It’s 126 people whom have been fined. Some of those have been fined more than once. Will we ever find out how many fines the PM got?

A couple of journalists are saying he and Carrie have got no further fines, but does that mean no further fines from today?

Regardless of him being personally fined, those people fined were in his house (the cheese and wine garden party was discounted). If he didn't know they were there, then he is dumb.

I suspect Dominic Cummings hasn't finished yet, as he has 300 photographs in hand.

 

[KZNSeagull]

It’s 126 people whom have been fined. Some of those have been fined more than once. Will we ever find out how many fines the PM got?

BBC saying it's 98 people fined, some more than once. 126 fines in total. Police have told BJ that he will not face further fines. So the answer is 1 fine for BJ. Unless people think the Police are lying too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61508110

 

[Thunder Bolt]

BBC saying it's 98 people fined, some more than once. 126 fines in total. Police have told BJ that he will not face further fines. So the answer is 1 fine for BJ. Unless people think the Police are lying too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61508110

Will not face further fines. That doesn't mean he didn't get more yesterday or even this morning.

He may not have received anything else, but as I pointed out before, his address is the most law breaking in the entire land. 126 fines in one address.

 

[Hugo Rune]

One fine.

Had a lot more impact before the police got involved.

Are you 100% sure he only received one fine?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Will not face further fines. That doesn't mean he didn't get more yesterday or even this morning.

He may not have received anything else, but as I pointed out before, his address is the most law breaking in the entire land. 126 fines in one address.

Seems pretty clear that he has not been fined again. 126 in an office is a lot, I agree, hence why loads of civil servants got the chop when this first came out. KS, the Labour Party and it's supporters need to move on and attack Johnson on policy - it's not like there isn't a load of ammunition out there for them to use.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seems pretty clear that he has not been fined again. 126 in an office is a lot, I agree, hence why loads of civil servants got the chop when this first came out. KS, the Labour Party and it's supporters need to move on and attack Johnson on policy - it's not like there isn't a load of ammunition out there for them to use.

If it is pretty clear he hasn't been fined again, then the Met Police need investigating for corruption. The ABBA party alone was breaking the law.

Please don't associate my ire as being part of the Labour party nor a supporter. I voted LibDem in the last three elections. I have voted Conservative and Labour at times in the past. I vote on policies and candidates, not blindly according to their colours.

You are basically writing off my opinion because you think I am a 'lefty',

 

[beorhthelm]

twitter is already full of cope, calling police corrupt. maybe what we were told about no10 wasnt altogether true or exaggerated?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

twitter is already full of cope, calling police corrupt. maybe what we were told about no10 wasnt altogether true or exaggerated?

Why would you think the Met Police are corrupt, when Savid Javid's brother is a Deputy Police Commissioner?

 

[KZNSeagull]

If it is pretty clear he hasn't been fined again, then the Met Police need investigating for corruption. The ABBA party alone was breaking the law.

Please don't associate my ire as being part of the Labour party nor a supporter. I voted LibDem in the last three elections. I have voted Conservative and Labour at times in the past. I vote on policies and candidates, not blindly according to their colours.

You are basically writing off my opinion because you think I am a 'lefty',

I'm not writing about your opinion at all, the Labour Party are the official opposition and imo need to attack Johnson on policy. Whether you support them or not is irrelevant.

As for public trial by Twitter, I personally do not believe that is the way forward in British justice.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm not writing about your opinion at all, the Labour Party are the official opposition and imo need to attack Johnson on policy. Whether you support them or not is irrelevant.

As for public trial by Twitter, I personally do not believe that is the way forward in British justice.

I said writing off my opinion, not writing about.

I haven't seen you condemn the trial by Twitter and the media (Daily Mail) of Sir Keir Starmer.
Now that is someone who has been cleared by the police as allowed under campaigning laws in April 2021 but now being forced to undergo trial by media because some right wingers have insisted the police go into it again.

Now, do you see the dilemma?

 

[Baldseagull]

If it is pretty clear he hasn't been fined again, then the Met Police need investigating for corruption. The ABBA party alone was breaking the law.

Please don't associate my ire as being part of the Labour party nor a supporter. I voted LibDem in the last three elections. I have voted Conservative and Labour at times in the past. I vote on policies and candidates, not blindly according to their colours.

You are basically writing off my opinion because you think I am a 'lefty',

Some suggesting that because he did not leave his home to attend a gathering, he could possibly avoid the fine, whilst others attending could be fined for being at the same gathering.

 

[CHAPPERS]

the Labour Party are the official opposition and imo need to attack Johnson on policy. Whether you support them or not is irrelevant.
.

Where has this idea that Labour are not attacking Johnson on policy come from? PMQs yesterday was entirely dedicated to the cost of living and the government’s inaction.

 

[KZNSeagull]

I said writing off my opinion, not writing about.

I haven't seen you condemn the trial by Twitter and the media (Daily Mail) of Sir Keir Starmer.
Now that is someone who has been cleared by the police as allowed under campaigning laws in April 2021 but now being forced to undergo trial by media because some right wingers have insisted the police go into it again.

Now, do you see the dilemma?

I don't give a flying hoot about KS and his curry eating habits. I want to deal with facts, not speculation and I do not want speculation presented as fact. Hence I do not use Twitter. All I have suggested is that KS needs to attack Johnson on policy. I know you are angry about KS being investigated as you know him. You are over-reacting to what I said. I'll leave it there. Have a good day

 

[KZNSeagull]

Where has this idea that Labour are not attacking Johnson on policy come from? PMQs yesterday was entirely dedicated to the cost of living and the government’s inaction.

And about time too.