[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[The Clamp]

The Tory government has learned the huge deflecting value of inquiries, it means that no one in government has to try to answer (ie lie ) awkward questions from journalistic experts in their field. .... " well thats in the hands of the Ethics Advisor now...I can't comment while the matter is under investigation "

And of course;

“The ethics advisory has ruled no laws have been broken and we see that as an end to the matter”

 

[The Clamp]

UK minister admits 200 asylum-seeking children have gone missing

Simon Murray says one girl and at least 13 under-16s among those missing after being placed in hotels run by Home Office

www.theguardian.com

 

[The Clamp]

Gordon Brown warns of Tories ‘testing the water’ for two-tier healthcare | Gordon Brown | The Guardian

Sajid Javid idea to charge patients would undermine NHS and fail to tackle entrenched poverty, says former Labour prime minister

amp.theguardian.com

Mark my words: this will be the end of the NHS if the Tories have their way | NHS | The Guardian

They want a more privately funded healthcare system. It wouldn’t just be unfair, it makes no economic sense, says former prime minister Gordon Brown

amp.theguardian.com

It’s coming…

 

[Hugo Rune]

More duplicity and corruption. Can’t f***ing help themselves, can they? It’s their factory setting.

Conservative health minister has big stake in Covid testing firm

Exclusive: Nick Markham, who co- founded Cignpost Investments during the pandemic, was given a peerage by Liz Truss

www.theguardian.com

No. They can’t help themselves. It’s a culture.

The old boys network.

You achieve positions of power and then look after the chaps from prep school, oxbridge, the investment bank or the club. You never know when you might need their help, like when you want to become chairman of the BBC, need a flat refurb or an old-boys-network-special-loan.

Keep the wealth amongst chums whilst poisoning the thick-as-shit with hate and nationalism to get their support. It’s an old game.

 

[Pevenseagull]

I better run that by the ethics advisor to see if I'll get away with it.

 

[Randy McNob]

I think that they fail to point out that so many people are on minimum wage/Zero Hours contracts that they fall in to the zone if having a right to benefits. It's long been known that millions of claimants are employed.

I personally don't claim but my wage is so poor I only contribute about £150 pcm in Income Tax and NI.

Always remember that when a Tory Minister or PM says they want a High Wage economy, their party is funded by millionaires who demand the exact opposite.

in a nut shell it's taxpayers subsidising corporations rather than raising the living wage, they rather the countries wealth is with the big corporations, shareholders and hedge funds than in the pockets of workers. Tory Britain

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Not sure Zahawi’s claim that the tax issue was carelessness can have credibility. Are we saying that someone that wealthy doesn’t have a tax accountant who can advise on the correct course of action.

 

[nicko31]

Gordon Brown warns of Tories ‘testing the water’ for two-tier healthcare | Gordon Brown | The Guardian

Sajid Javid idea to charge patients would undermine NHS and fail to tackle entrenched poverty, says former Labour prime minister

amp.theguardian.com

Mark my words: this will be the end of the NHS if the Tories have their way | NHS | The Guardian

They want a more privately funded healthcare system. It wouldn’t just be unfair, it makes no economic sense, says former prime minister Gordon Brown

amp.theguardian.com

It’s coming…

I’m absolutely convinced if they win the next election that’s it’s for the NHS in its current form. Free at point of use for all is over.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I’m absolutely convinced if they win the next election that’s it’s for the NHS in its current form. Free at point of use for all is over

Even Starmer and the Unions can't blow this lead.

 

[Randy McNob]

Even Starmer and the Unions can't blow this lead.

itĺl be a lab / lib / SNP coalition

 

[Is it PotG?]

itĺl be a lab / lib / SNP coalition

Just so long as Nicola has her say ...

 

[Randy McNob]

whats wrong these politicians?, they go into politics purely to stuff as much cash in their pockets until they get caught then treat everyone like idiots with their pathetic excuses. Is there a Tory politician who isn't either a tax dodger, seiall liar, sex offender or just a complete tmbecile? There used to be a time when politicians used to be trusted, upstanding people with morals and integrity who went into politics to improve our country and make a difference to peoples lives

 

[Randy McNob]

Just so long as Nicola has her say ...

they'll get their referendum then

 

[Is it PotG?]

There used to be a time when politicians used to be trusted, upstanding people with morals and integrity who went into politics to improve our country and make a difference to peoples lives

Which reminds me, anyone watched that splendid 'Stonehouse' TV prog?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Which reminds me, anyone watched that splendid 'Stonehouse' TV prog?

No, but I've been reading about the Wars of the Roses if we're going down the whataboutism line again

I do hope you're not relegated to the ironic thumbs up again

 

[clapham_gull]

itĺl be a lab / lib / SNP coalition

The polls (and if you add in the odd council election) would suggest otherwise.

It's stopped becoming about "politics" for a while and now is purely about behaviour in public office and nepotism.

There is very little to suggest at the moment that Labour won't get back in with a landslide as the electorate punishes the Conservative party as it did with Major.

The problem is still Johnson and the dark cloud he has left over the party. Anyone who followed his career as London Mayor could see how he constantly blurred the lines between the public and private, personal and professional relationships. Any rule was there to be broken.

He's also left a number of waring factions and it's difficult to work out who exactly is briefing against who.

As the other big party, Labour won't require a coalition and as bad for democracy as it is, I'm sure they have to lay out much of a plan to win.

 

[Is it PotG?]

No, but I've been reading about the Wars of the Roses if we're going down the whataboutism line again

I do hope you're not relegated to the ironic thumbs up again

I won't, only if you promise to leave out the late edits sweetheart.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I won't, only if you promise to leave out the late edits sweetheart.

I don't think a lot of people would believe the sense of entitlement that is at the heart of this cabal. I was ranting to a friend last week, who is far closer and more involved in this stuff, about the complete contempt and utter disdain that they have for the rest of Britain, outside of their own cabal and it's financial backers.

His reply ? If you think that's bad, you should hear the contempt and disdain they have for the rest of the conservative party and their voters

 

[Randy McNob]

The polls (and if you add in the odd council election) would suggest otherwise.

It's stopped becoming about "politics" for a while and now is purely about behaviour in public office and nepotism.

There is very little to suggest at the moment that Labour won't get back in with a landslide as the electorate punishes the Conservative party as it did with Major.

The problem is still Johnson and the dark cloud he has left over the party. Anyone who followed his career as London Mayor could see how he constantly blurred the lines between the public and private, personal and professional relationships. Any rule was there to be broken.

He's also left a number of waring factions and it's difficult to work out who exactly is briefing against who.

As the other big party, Labour won't require a coalition and as bad for democracy as it is, I'm sure they have to lay out much of a plan to win.

there's no other right wing party, the Tories mopped up all the UKipers, even the BNP vote Tory now. Tehy win power by being the single party with most votes under unfair FPTP voting system, if you look at all the votes in a general election most are for left or centre left but Tories still get in

They took the below seat from labour even though technically less people voted tory (if you add Tory and UKIP together) and more people voted for left parties

 

[zefarelly]

Last time there was any integrity in the house, people were building new houses out of stone.