[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[BBassic]

I see one MP is using the term "work bubble" again to excuse the behaviour.

No such thing existed in law.

Mate of mine had several bubbles. A work bubble. A bubble with his family. One with his girlfriend and her housemates.

Bizarre how people interpret rules.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Mate of mine had several bubbles. A work bubble. A bubble with his family. One with his girlfriend and her housemates.

Bizarre how people interpret rules.

You are friends with Boris?

 

[clapham_gull]

Mate of mine had several bubbles. A work bubble. A bubble with his family. One with his girlfriend and her housemates.

Bizarre how people interpret rules.

So did my ex neighbours. Landlord threw them out. They genuinely believed under the child care bubble provisions they could drive up and down the country and stay in each others houses (for a little holiday) when they wanted.

Sister and family come to visit - bubble.

Grandfather drives Grandmother down for a few weeks from the Midlands - bubble.

Grandfather get lonely and moves in as well - bubble.

Grandparents go back to Midlands - bubble.

Women and child moves back home to Midlands - bubble.

Women misses husband and comes back to London - bubble.

All four go to Midlands for Christmas (that Christmas) - bubble.

Man comes back first - bubble.

Moves his brother in for a few days - bubble.

All four come back to London after Christmas - bubble.

My aunt died in hospital with Covid and I lost my rag and ask them what they f**** they are doing.

The response ?

We are a "bubble" and the rules don't apply to us.

 

[WATFORD zero]

How many of those went to Sir Madras?

Why do you keep attempting to make this about tribal party politics - and in such an infantile way too?

I have never voted Labour and can't envisage any circumstances under which I would. But even I can see this far wider than party politics. This is about standards in public life, misleading parliament, a complete failure to take responsibility and repeatedly lying in a manner that diminishes the office of PM in particular and our politics in general. Johnson is a toxic, corrosive cancer on our public life.

I've come to the view that the real fools in all this are no longer those of us who did our best to comply with the draconian restrictions on our freedoms whilst Johnson carried on regardless to serve his almost pathological need 'to be liked' and appear cool in front of his wife's friends; no - the real fools in all of this are those who insist on continuing to defend Johnson no matter what.

Still, you carry on making up hilarious curry-related names for the Leader of the Opposition. How about Keir Korma? You can have that one on me

He does it because the alternative would be even more embarrassing for him

 

[Randy McNob]

as long as there's enough people who quote have never voted Labour and can't envisage any circumstances under which I would. unquote

you'll end up with Johnson as your leader, laughing in your face, billionaires increasing and the poor getting poorer.

If you've spent 40 years buying into Thatcherism and ticking the blue box, saying socialism doesn't work, don't cry when your sky high energy bills land on your door matt. That's your low tax, low regulated, sold off free market economy you voted for

 

[Bry Nylon]

as long as there's enough people who quote have never voted Labour and can't envisage any circumstances under which I would. unquote

you'll end up with Johnson as your leader, laughing in your face, billionaires increasing and the poor getting poorer.

If you've spent 40 years buying into Thatcherism and ticking the blue box, saying socialism doesn't work, don't cry when your sky high energy bills land on your door matt. That's your low tax, low regulated, sold off free market economy you voted for

You see, I don’t necessarily agree with this and believe that socialism is as equally ill-equipped as the foundation for a modern, dynamic, productive, aspirational, compassionate and balanced economy and society as unfettered capitalism is. Both models are broken and championed by dogmatic ideologues who seem incapable of recognising there may be merits in both.

For what it is worth I can’t envisage myself voting for any political party again and as someone who has always taken an active interest in British politics and studied PPE (Politics, philosophy & economics, not face masks and surgical gowns) at university, it is depressing to feel so utterly disenfranchised by the current options.

Anyway. I don’t want to derail the thread. I’m looking forward to watching Johnson squirm in the commons tomorrow.

 

[clapham_gull]

You see, I don’t necessarily agree with this and believe that socialism is as equally ill-equipped as the foundation for a modern, dynamic, productive, aspirational, compassionate and balanced economy and society as unfettered capitalism is. Both models are broken and championed by dogmatic ideologues who seem incapable of recognising there may be merits in both.

Never trust a hippy.

 

[lawros left foot]

It now appears the Mirror is printing allegations with a photo of a new seemingly pre-planned event, that both Sue Gray and the MET have declined to sanction.

This was on Tuesday 17th November.

Number 10 work schedule for during the pandemic appears to be,

Martini Monday

Tequila Tuesday

Whiskey Wednesday

Thirsty Thursday

Fizz Friday

Sambuca Saturday

Sundowners Sunday.

 

[TomandJerry]

More lies!

Boris Johnson’s government worked for months to encourage the Premier League to approve the controversial Saudi Arabia-backed takeover of Newcastle United, a Guardian investigation can reveal.

The extensive efforts to facilitate the deal, led by Johnson’s minister for investment, Lord Gerry Grimstone, were made despite the government, and Johnson, repeatedly saying publicly that they had no involvement in the takeover talks

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[clapham_gull]

It now appears the Mirror is printing allegations with a photo of a new seemingly pre-planned event, that both Sue Gray and the MET have declined to sanction.

All very confusing now.

This is a new piss up that celebrated the last briefing of the PMs official spokesman.

Not to be confused with his leaving do which was the one of the eve of Prince Phillips funeral.

They do hate to say goodbye at Number 10.

 

[clapham_gull]

Wonder why there was a delay between his last briefing and leaving do ?

Oh yes of course, lockdown. How silly of me.

 

[A1X]

It’s genuinely fascinating how people can still support a Prime Minister and Government which treats them with such open contempt.

“What excuse do we use now?”
“Say his mum died.”
“But she didn’t?”
“Who cares, these morons will swallow anything we say.”

 

[clapham_gull]

It’s genuinely fascinating how people can still support a Prime Minister and Government which treats them with such open contempt.

“What excuse do we use now?”
“Say his mum died.”
“But she didn’t?”
“Who cares, these morons will swallow anything we say.”

That technically wasn't the excuse. The defence was the PM has been through a lot during the pandemic including the passing of mother.

The fact she sadly passed away 10 months later from the party in question is irrelevant.

Apparently.

 

[Insel affe]

Mate of mine had several bubbles. A work bubble. A bubble with his family. One with his girlfriend and her housemates.

Bizarre how people interpret rules.

Yes, I found out a workmate ( he’s not a mate though) at the end of lockdown he told me, he had similar, one with his daughter and husband, one with his dad, our work bubble (we worked through all lockdowns) and another with a neighbour….

Flabbergasted when he told me, his dad has heart issues, and another workmate has crones disease…

Idiot, I was fuming at how ignorant he was, he shrugged his shoulders…

Much like our glorious feckwit of a leader…

Shameful behaviour Boris should just feck off, he’s taking the piss out of everybody who abided to the rules.

Just go…

 

[clapham_gull]

Yes, I found out a workmate ( he’s not a mate though) at the end of lockdown he told me, he had similar, one with his daughter and husband, one with his dad, our work bubble (we worked through all lockdowns) and another with a neighbour….

Flabbergasted when he told me, his dad has heart issues, and another workmate has crones disease…

Idiot, I was fuming at how ignorant he was, he shrugged his shoulders…

Much like our glorious feckwit of a leader…

Shameful behaviour Boris should just feck off, he’s taking the piss out of everybody who abided to the rules.

Just go…

Work bubble wasn't really a thing though was it ?

Where has this term come from ?

There were support bubbles and advice to schools referred to as bubbles, but nothing referred to as "work bubble".

It appears to have been a term that workplaces started using to help stop people mixing, for example only allowing certain departments in on certain days and keeping rotas constant as possible.

However all the social distancing was enforced, unlike "support bubbles".

There was never a thing called a "work bubble" under the Covid legislation.

 

[The Clamp]

PMQ’s tomorrow; I guarantee you’ll hear this phrase at least 20 times.

“We must wait for the Gray report”.

Then he’ll sit back down on his fat arse, huff and puff and shake his head as charge after charge are detailed to him by Starmer.

Then he’s going to F off for a few weeks while Parliament takes another break.

I guarantee you that will be the last we will hear about it, except possibly a bit of condemnation on the day the Gray report is published.

Who still doesn’t get it? THE TRUTH DOES NOT MATTER ANYMORE.

 

[The Clamp]

Work bubble wasn't really a thing though was it ? .. not legally.

My understanding it was just general advice to help stop spread in workplaces that continued to work.

"Work bubbles" went home.

Correct. Work bubbles were not a thing. At all.

If you were a key worker and you had to mix with others, this was permitted as long as contact was kept to an absolute minimum. An absolute minimum.

No drinks, no socialising at the workplace or anywhere else.

At my work we cancelled all our daily handovers, all information was handed over on email. No more than two people in any meeting and only for absolute essential consultations. We were lone working for 15 hour shifts and not even able to exchange a quick chat with our workmates. I live alone, so I was going for days without any real contact with anyone.


No physical contact with our clients or service users unless administering first aid. Not even car sharing with colleagues to and from work. We even had an “air-lock” ingress and egress rule. Day staff left through the back door and us nighties came in through the front 5 minutes later.

The idea there would be thirty strong in a room, drinking and sitting on laps was utterly unthinkable for anyone in ANY workplace. Except one, as it turns out.

I genuinely think people have already forgotten how strict these laws and rules were. I include myself in that comment. I have trouble recalling quite how strict it all was. And then one compares that to what the Tory’s we’re getting up to. It makes one’s jaw drop, it really does.

There was no such thing as a work bubble.

Boris Johnson is a morally bankrupt liar and I hope someone stands up tomorrow and calls him that to his gormless face.

Go away Johnson, you ****.

 

[clapham_gull]

Correct. Work bubbles were not a thing. At all.

Quite. The first time I heard this term was a long while ago now, by an MP originally defending the behaviour at Number 10.

The only official reference I could find is from NHS staffing advice re-iterating there is no such thing as a "work bubble".

Quite incredible an "urban myth" is being used liberally by MPs to defend the PM.

 

[The Clamp]

Quite. The first time I heard this term was a long while ago now, by an MP originally defending the behaviour at Number 10.

The only official reference I could find is from NHS staffing advice re-iterating there is no such thing as a "work bubble".

Quite incredible an "urban myth" is being used liberally by MPs to defend the PM.

Incredible but rather fitting, wouldn’t you say!

 

[clapham_gull]

I genuinely think people have already forgotten how strict these laws and rules were. I include myself in that comment. I have trouble recalling quite how strict it all was. And then one compares that to what the Tory’s we’re getting up to. It makes one’s jaw drop, it really does.

Thank you, I have been thinking the same.

People getting moved on from park benches whilst No 10 was installing a new wine cooler.

( Not technically at the same time, but **** it. Work bubble, just make it up )