T.G
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The problem is as a country we are actually in a much better place than most of the world…..that bit !
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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That's Croydon for you.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
ta. it's clear, mr. gerbils would vote for the infamous, "pig with a blue rossette"
Not really….but hey ho
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Could be where they are at….just to prove a political point
Ps …I’m moving off the thread, I have this rather large chocolate bar to consume
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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That's obviously a funny example, but the AI fake stuff is deeply unsettling.
I saw a very early incarnation where a company was pitching technology to make voice dubbing more accurate and importantly cheaper. It's very expensive when done well. Certain markets only accept dubbing not subtitles.
Basically the "voice actors" mouth movements are morphed onto the actor. Or to put in another way, the mouth movements of Tom Cruise are generated digitally according to the speech of the German voice actor.
Even back then the implications were apparent for "news", and we hadn't heard the expression "fake news" by then.
I don't think I've ever left a presentation where everyone in the room was, well frankly appalled and freaked out.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Meanwhile...
https://news.sky.com/story/priti-pa...for-appalling-behaviours-by-officers-12531441
We've also learnt over the last few days why the MET's leader in still in a job.
Apparently the Government is uncomfortable with the "political leanings" (let's call it "woke") credentials of the next candidates in line.
They'd rather leave somebody in place who should have gone years ago, in case the new one isn't aligned philosophically with the current cabinet.
If true, we are in a very very bad place. A direct attempt to politicise the Police Force.
https://news.sky.com/story/priti-pa...for-appalling-behaviours-by-officers-12531441
We've also learnt over the last few days why the MET's leader in still in a job.
Apparently the Government is uncomfortable with the "political leanings" (let's call it "woke") credentials of the next candidates in line.
They'd rather leave somebody in place who should have gone years ago, in case the new one isn't aligned philosophically with the current cabinet.
If true, we are in a very very bad place. A direct attempt to politicise the Police Force.
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,202
Say what you like about thatch, at least she was competent, so I voted for her once. Can you remember a worse government than this? No one's got anywhere near these depths in my lifetime, so if you can be an apologist for this shower, you're simply rationalizing how to justify voting for the custard filled mattress!
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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I said before all this stuff that I felt every PM I have been aware of from Thatcher onwards in general did what they thought was best for the country. I might not agree with them but they were doing what they thought was best most of the time. I would even include Corbyn in this - certainly early on as leader - seemed true to his politics, even though they are not mine.
But not this shower and certainly not the mattress. All about power and self preservation.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I read about the Charing Cross police station and the Westminster force, sadly none of it surprising me following the murder of Sarah Everard, the way the women were treated at Clapham Common, the other convicted rapist, and the treatment of the Professor from Nottingham.
I know, as a woman, if I needed help in London, a police officer would be the last person I would ask.
I find this video deeply troubling but it does show the corruption is not new. I am sorry to be reminded about the history and I really hope a new government will address the problem.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRIvlqynKlU
nicko31
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Matt Hancock is their hero, Leverson 2 never happened
A pedant writes: the UK is in a temperate zone, being near the equator means being a tropical climate.
You're speaking for yourself there, I'd hate to be living anywhere near the equator. I like living in a temperate zone so there's nothing wrong with the climate ... just the government
cheshunt seagull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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That’s how I see it. I have never seen anything like this government before in the UK. This week’s QAnon playbook Savile stuff is a new low and the depressing thing is we know he will go even lower and sacrifice anyone and anything to stay in power.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Exactly, but who could have seen this happening
Posted 4th Sept 2019, 3 months before Johnson won the General Election
Now I'm sure many on here had things they didn't like about Theresa May, David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, John Major, Margaret Thatcher, James Callaghan, Harold Wilson, Ted Heath, Sir Alec Douglas-Home and Harold Macmillan.
But Johnson has certainly ushered in a new type of politics for the first time in my lifetime.
This is the first time I have actually seen a lying incompetent in charge of the country
Oh...
I think it is clear this is NOT a Conservative government in any traditional sense. It is 'team Johnson' and, like the Trump phenomenon, it has hijacked a long established Party and created a cabal. In effect these are the real 'Fifth Columnists', a term that right wing tribalists on here (one in particular) falsely and frequently use in referring to anyone who points out the mendacity of the current Tory leadership and its disastrous policies.
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