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Sid and the Sharknados

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Having been in the Alfriston doctor's surgery on Monday, it's clear that there are swathes of people entirely taken in by Tory war-mongering.

"I moved down here in the 70s because London has become like a third world country. I haven't been back in years because it's even worse now" was pretty much verbatim and my favourite comment
Urgh.
 




A1X

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Maybe it's because I'm not a Tory MP, but I genuinely can't fathom the mindset of someone who sees a news story about a 13 year old dying and thinks "good, I can use that for some political campaigning"



Weapons grade twat
 


Peteinblack

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Having been in the Alfriston doctor's surgery on Monday, it's clear that there are swathes of people entirely taken in by Tory war-mongering.

"I moved down here in the 70s because London has become like a third world country. I haven't been back in years because it's even worse now" was pretty much verbatim and my favourite comment
If they haven't been back in years, how do they know its even worse now?

Jeez, these people are pig-ignorant, bigoted, racist, @rseholes - the Reform UK party's core support, I imagine.
 


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We could on Friday be in a weird situation where labour has annihilation the tories in the local elections . But they win the London mayor race. Khan has really pissed off a lot of the London public and in the latest polls is only just ahead
 


JBizzle

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If they haven't been back in years, how do they know its even worse now?

Jeez, these people are pig-ignorant, bigoted, racist, @rseholes - the Reform UK party's core support, I imagine.
That's the bit I found utterly hilarious. It's just tosh they've been spoon fed
 








Peteinblack

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That's the bit I found utterly hilarious. It's just tosh they've been spoon fed
Hilarious on one level, but utterly depressing on another, because it shows just how thick and gullible these sort of people are - and this will strongly influence who they vote for. That's what really saddens me; these people are Nigel Farage's and Richard Tice's electoral base, and the Conservatives, and Labour to some extent, keep moving Right-wards to pander to them.
 






Stato

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Fox would have walked it. I'm calling election fraud.
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Poll time @crodonilson ...
 


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Importers of food from the EU into Britain have said newly introduced post-Brexit checks could increase their costs by up to 60%, pushing up prices for customers and driving some shops out of business.

After five previous delays, the UK government on Tuesday introduced the physical checks on animal and plant products entering from the EU, having revealed at the start of this month that it would be implementing a common user charge (CUC) of up to £145 per consignment.
 




clapham_gull

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We could on Friday be in a weird situation where labour has annihilation the tories in the local elections . But they win the London mayor race. Khan has really pissed off a lot of the London public and in the latest polls is only just ahead
That poll was a bit of an outlier, https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49286-london-2024-mayoral-race-khan-47-hall-25 has him way ahead this afternoon.

Here from the Standard who are no friend of Khan.


Ahead by 13pts in outer London is telling.

That said, funny things happen in London.

On balance, however meh Khan has been, I'd be massively surprised if London elects an oddball like Hall with limited experienced.

Tories could have chosen from a number of MPs who would have given Khan a race. They didn't.
 
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Gwylan

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On balance, however meh Khan has been, I'd be massively surprised if London elects an oddball like Hall with limited experienced.

Tories could have chosen from a number of MPs who would have given Khan a race. They didn't.
Yes, that's interesting: I think Khan could have been beatable but the Tories chose a dribbling halfwit who I wouldn't trust to run a school raffle. Why didn't they pick a credible candidate?
 


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Yes, that's interesting: I think Khan could have been beatable but the Tories chose a dribbling halfwit who I wouldn't trust to run a school raffle. Why didn't they pick a credible candidate?
I’m gonna guess at the most obvious answer….

There ain’t one.
 




clapham_gull

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My bad I made the mistake of reading the sun 😂😂

The anti-Khan, London is the worst city in the world thing has been built up by grassroots Tories on social media to try and persuade people NOT to vote Labour in the election. If you look on Twitter the vast majority of anti Khan (and often racist) dirge comes from people outside London who got sucked in.

They don't care about the mayoral elections.

If they did Sunak would be doing numerous public walkabouts with Hall.

Part of strategy was to put an unhinged attack dog on the case in London.

Strategically, alongside the enforced electoral changes I suspect they thought they could damage Khan but he would get over the line.

My money will be on the strategy massively backfiring.
 




The Clamp

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The anti-Khan, London is the worst city in the world thing has been built up by grassroots Tories on social media to try and persuade people NOT to vote Labour in the election. If you look on Twitter the vast majority of anti Khan (and often racist) dirge comes from people outside London who got sucked in.

They don't care about the mayoral elections.

If they did Sunak would be doing numerous public walkabouts with Hall.

Part of strategy was to put an unhinged attack dog on the case in London.

Strategically, alongside the enforced electoral changes I suspect they thought they could damage Khan but he would get over the line.

My money will be on the strategy massively backfiring.
I guarantee there’ll be some Gammony Thickets out there who don’t know that the mayoral elections are different from the general election.
 






clapham_gull

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Yes, that's interesting: I think Khan could have been beatable but the Tories chose a dribbling halfwit who I wouldn't trust to run a school raffle. Why didn't they pick a credible candidate?
Because they don't want a successful high profile Mayor to challenge the PM at a future election.

They don't want another Boris.

That has changed somewhat this time, where they have ramped up the rhetoric to damage Starmer.

One of the attacks has been to criticise Khan over the rebranding of the Overland. It was in his manifesto last time.

That said Khan is a pretty mundane speaker and debater. Numerous Tory MPs with cabinet experience could have taken him on. One even applied but wasn't selected.

The one chosen had to go because of personal allegations and Hall was selected by the members. I can't believe my local MPs are associating themselves with her, they were quite happy to throw Johnson under a bus when campaigning.

But to honest they have nothing and are obsessed with what they perceive to be anti car measures....

In London with the lowest car ownership in the country.

They may as well be campaigning for the Birmingham fishing industry.

 
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South Stand Bonfire

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Importers of food from the EU into Britain have said newly introduced post-Brexit checks could increase their costs by up to 60%, pushing up prices for customers and driving some shops out of business.

After five previous delays, the UK government on Tuesday introduced the physical checks on animal and plant products entering from the EU, having revealed at the start of this month that it would be implementing a common user charge (CUC) of up to £145 per consignment.
Well, that should boost inflation and put an early interest rate cut in the balance…
 


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