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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Dick Swiveller

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Sep 9, 2011
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Rumours this morning that there is a recording of the whips' threats / intimidation / blackmail and that it might get released.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...ter-claims-of-intimidation/ar-AASZy5l?ocid=st

Whip Mark Spencer, you say? Sounds tasty. These aren't just any whips.

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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex






Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Odd one……thought it might have been deleted but it’s still there


No idea if genuine

Looking at the replies, he's removed the initial post and posted a second time a (more?) redacted version to remove names of people who may be victims, or innocent parties.
 










Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,262
1. The list is over 4 years old. The story about the list broke in October 2017.
2. The complete unredacted document can be viewed on observer.com or the full text of it can be viewed on Reddit.
3. It would appear to be a genuine document. If you Google some the the affairs listed they were reported at the time (David Morris, Rudd, Shapps, Boris to name but a few).

The list shows there was already a questionable culture and inappropriate behaviour in the Conservative Party long before Boris became MP. The prevalence of getting "handsy" with researchers suggests boozy lunches which, in turn, supports the notion Westminster likes a drink and regularly blurs the lines between work and play, so feeding in to the narrative of lockdown parties.
 
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mr sheen

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Jan 17, 2008
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1. The list is over 4 years old. The story about the list broke in October 2017.
2. The complete unredacted document can be viewed on observer.com or the full text of it can be viewed on Reddit.
3. It would appear to be a genuine document. If you Google some the the affairs listed they were reported at the time (David Morris, Rudd, Shapps, Boris to name but a few).

The list shows there was already a questionable culture and inappropriate behaviour in the Conservative Party long before Boris became MP. The prevalence of getting "handsy" with researchers suggests boozy lunches which, in turn, supports the notion Westminster likes a drink and regularly blurs the lines between work and play, so feeding in to the narrative of lockdown parties.
Gosh, Truss and Kwarteng
 




Screaming J

He'll put a spell on you
Jul 13, 2004
2,403
Exiled from the South Country
1. The list is over 4 years old. The story about the list broke in October 2017.
2. The complete unredacted document can be viewed on observer.com or the full text of it can be viewed on Reddit.
3. It would appear to be a genuine document. If you Google some the the affairs listed they were reported at the time (David Morris, Rudd, Shapps, Boris to name but a few).

The list shows there was already a questionable culture and inappropriate behaviour in the Conservative Party long before Boris became MP. The prevalence of getting "handsy" with researchers suggests boozy lunches which, in turn, supports the notion Westminster likes a drink and regularly blurs the lines between work and play, so feeding in to the narrative of lockdown parties.

https://observer.com/2017/10/westminster-sex-dossier-reveals-36-accounts-of-alleged-misconduct/
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Gosh, Truss and Kwarteng
I believe this has been referenced in Private Eye a few times, I'm sure that if it was false and a law suit had occurred, there would have been a retraction and apology by now....I'd assume it's true.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The Telegraph has just published some more details from the parties involving about 30 people that took place in the basement of Downing Street the night before Prince Philip’s funeral, which have come from witness reports, text messages and photos:

Downing Street staff partied from around 6pm until 1am in a seven-hour drinking session, text messages seen by the Telegraph indicate.

People were served wine and spirits with mixers in plastic disposable cups, with alcohol at one point getting spilled on an office printer

The people at the parties played loud music on a laptop and ordered four large takeaway pizzas.
A photograph seen by the Telegraph showed No 10 staff - some with drinks - gathered in the Downing Street basement, backing up accounts published earlier this month.

The existence of photographs could become a point of focus for Sue Gray’s investigation. The Telegraph has opted not to publish these for source protection.

Some attendees are alleged to have gone down a child slide belonging to Wilf Johnson, Boris Johnson’s son. It has previously been reported that Wilf’s swing was broken that night.

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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
The Telegraph has just published some more details from the parties involving about 30 people that took place in the basement of Downing Street the night before Prince Philip’s funeral, which have come from witness reports, text messages and photos:

Downing Street staff partied from around 6pm until 1am in a seven-hour drinking session, text messages seen by the Telegraph indicate.

People were served wine and spirits with mixers in plastic disposable cups, with alcohol at one point getting spilled on an office printer

The people at the parties played loud music on a laptop and ordered four large takeaway pizzas.
A photograph seen by the Telegraph showed No 10 staff - some with drinks - gathered in the Downing Street basement, backing up accounts published earlier this month.

The existence of photographs could become a point of focus for Sue Gray’s investigation. The Telegraph has opted not to publish these for source protection.

Some attendees are alleged to have gone down a child slide belonging to Wilf Johnson, Boris Johnson’s son. It has previously been reported that Wilf’s swing was broken that night.

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All this won't worry Johnson or incriminate him, he was not there at the time so all these details of partying put him in a good light.... " Not me guv ". This will help pin the blame on a " culture " rather than the man at the top who will then demand vehemently the right to clean up the mistakes ( not by me ) that occurred on his watch.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
12,323
All this won't worry Johnson or incriminate him, he was not there at the time so all these details of partying put him in a good light.... " Not me guv ". This will help pin the blame on a " culture " rather than the man at the top who will then demand vehemently the right to clean up the mistakes ( not by me ) that occurred on his watch.
Throw enough people under the bus and eventually one of them will have something to bring him down with.



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