[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[WATFORD zero]

Is there really any difference between the current Government cabal and the swivel-eyed loons of Reform/UKIP ?

It appears from today none other than trying to keep a job

So Cameron's attempts to paper over the cracks in his party, by giving the country a referendum has worked wonderfully. And the result is that the infighting in the conservative party continues 8 years on, whilst Britain continues to be completely f***ed over in the aftermath.

“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.”

And if ever it that statement needed confirmation, the British electorate have proven it. Well done everyone

 

[nicko31]

Is there really any difference between the current Government cabal and the swivel-eyed loons of Reform/UKIP ?

It appears from today non other than trying to keep a job

So Cameron's attempts to paper over the cracks in his party, by giving the country a referendum has worked wonderfully. And the result is that the infighting in the conservative party continues 8 years on, whilst Britain continues to be completely f***ed over in the aftermath.

“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.”

And if ever it that statement needed confirmation, the British electorate have proven it. Well done everyone

Learning the hard way

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Two more resignations - 30p Lee and Brendan Clarke-Smith, the deputy chairmen of the Tories.

Only their ministerial jobs unfortunately.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Don't vote. It only encourages them.

 

[TomandJerry]

We've just had another Tory resignation over tonight's vote.

Jane Stevenson, who served as PPS to Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch, has confirmed she has quit after defying the government and voting for the Cash and Jenrick amendments.

 

[Audax]

The rebels have shown they do have the numbers to torpedo Sunak tomorrow. Could be a big day ... one that I suspect could be a lose-lose one for Sunak. Either he gets holed below the waterline by the rebels, or he caves in to them and the centrists in the party do it instead.

Not sure how he finds a credible way out of this.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Only their ministerial jobs unfortunately.

It's not as of they have any integrity.


Funny though.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

The rebels have shown they do have the numbers to torpedo Sunak tomorrow. Could be a big day ... one that I suspect could be a lose-lose one for Sunak. Either he gets holed below the waterline by the rebels, or he caves in to them and the centrists in the party do it instead.

Not sure how he finds a credible way out of this.

I think the credibility train left the station quite a long time ago.

 

[nicko31]

The rebels have shown they do have the numbers to torpedo Sunak tomorrow. Could be a big day ... one that I suspect could be a lose-lose one for Sunak. Either he gets holed below the waterline by the rebels, or he caves in to them and the centrists in the party do it instead.

Not sure how he finds a credible way out of this.

I notice Johnson is stirring the shit from the sidelines.

Reckon the rebels will bottle it and it will pass. then HOL will intervene, amend, delay...

Cue Daily Mail....Enemies of the People, Parliament versus the People, usual BS....

 

[the larks]

Of course the rebels will bottle it. The bill will pass the third reading and then the LordS will rip it apart. Meanwhile I'll continue to email 30p Lee , Suella, James, Bill Cash and the rest of the f******ts to justify andxask for evidence each time they say " the overwhelming majority of the public ". Thus far no responses, still it makes me happy !!

 

[ROSM]

Its a strange world when people one cant stand start making sense.

For example, Dominic Cumnings has said that the rwanda plan was originally an extreme diversion. Invented to try and scare the extremists into looking at the real issue amd facing up to the fact that immigration is hard and needs compromises. However it has taken on a frankenstein like life of its own and the extremists believe it and sunak is pushing it

Secondly we have Kate Andrews of the spectator and formerly tax payers alliance, tufton st etc tearing Richard Tice a new one when challenging him that the uk needs immigration to function effectively with c1m vacancies in key areas

 

[Bodian]

Of course the rebels will bottle it. The bill will pass the third reading and then the LordS will rip it apart. Meanwhile I'll continue to email 30p Lee , Suella, James, Bill Cash and the rest of the f******ts to justify andxask for evidence each time they say " the overwhelming majority of the public ". Thus far no responses, still it makes me happy !!

Is there a way of making a FoI type request of a politician? That would at least get them to look?

 

[Peteinblack]

I think the credibility train left the station quite a long time ago.

I'm not sure it ever arrived in the first place!

 

[Peteinblack]

I notice Johnson is stirring the shit from the sidelines.

Reckon the rebels will bottle it and it will pass. then HOL will intervene, amend, delay...

Cue Daily Mail....Enemies of the People, Parliament versus the People, usual BS....

Yup, all so utterly predictable, isn't it.

 

[nicko31]

Yup, all so utterly predictable, isn't it.

They'll trying to make it Brexit 2.0 but with the country still reeling from Brexit 1.0 will it work?

What will become very obvious in the coming months is the desperation of client journalists, the ones with preferential access, they're bricking it and their bosses will be counting their losses.

 

[Peteinblack]

They're trying to make it Brexit 2.0 but with the country still reeling from Brexit 1.0 will it work?

Could do - these head-bangers are like the old Soviet Communists. For them, it's never the policy or ideology which is wrong, simply that it has not been applied hard enough or for long enough, due to faint-hearts and heretics in the 'deep state'. So the solution is to weed-out the 'traitors' and saboteurs, and then impose the policy even harder.

In the meantime, though, an increasingly impatient citizenry need to be kept distracted, and their anger directed at other targets.

Or maybe I'm just a bit too cynical!

 

[BBassic]

Shocked to read 30p Lee is on a £100k per year salary for GB News.

Doesn't sit right with me. I don't think politicians (of any colour rosette) should have second jobs that can be used to influence the electorate. That should be done via good work in constituency surgeries and in the Commons, no?

 

[chickens]

Shocked to read 30p Lee is on a £100k per year salary for GB News.

Doesn't sit right with me. I don't think politicians (of any colour rosette) should have second jobs that can be used to influence the electorate. That should be done via good work in constituency surgeries and in the Commons, no?

You would hope so wouldn’t you? Expect this to become increasingly normalised sadly. Half the current crop of Conservatives seem to be at it.

 

[nicko31]

Shocked to read 30p Lee is on a £100k per year salary for GB News.

Doesn't sit right with me. I don't think politicians (of any colour rosette) should have second jobs that can be used to influence the electorate. That should be done via good work in constituency surgeries and in the Commons, no?

What's more we have Tory MP's interviewing Tory ministers.

Toughen up Ofcom and toughen up rules on 2nd jobs....

 

[Peteinblack]

Shocked to read 30p Lee is on a £100k per year salary for GB News.

Doesn't sit right with me. I don't think politicians (of any colour rosette) should have second jobs that can be used to influence the electorate. That should be done via good work in constituency surgeries and in the Commons, no?

Totally agree - being an MP is meant to be a full-time job, because for good, conscientious, MPs, there are so many roles to fulfil, both in the House of Commons, and in their constituency.

Tory MPs like to claim that their second-jobs keep them in touch with the real world - not sure how working for GBNews or acquiring a well-paid company directorship achieves this.

Their contacts and correspondence with their constituents should be enough to keep them aware of the problems experienced by ordinary people 'in the real world', but if this is not enough, they could always volunteer at a Food Bank or some other form of unpaid community work among the destitute and disadvantaged.