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DumLum

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2009
3,772
West, West, West Sussex.
Ah, bless.

Nobody is stopping the Conservatives having their conference. In fact, it will still go ahead, as planned.

Parliament has just refused to be closed down for the duration, that is all.

Perhaps if your beloved leader hadn't just unlawfully wasted a big chunk of valuable parliamentary time, they'd have been more amenable to it?

So if the conservatives aren't in parliament are the opposition in power?

For the record I have never voted Conservative in my life.
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
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Yup, he probably would. But that is more to do with complete unelectability of Corbyn than anything else. If Labour had a half decent leader right now, they could be wiping the floor with the tories.

………. If only!!!!
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
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Unsurprising really.

He's an intellectually limited, opportunist tub-thumper, who is perfectly suited to delivering witty quips and rousing soundbites from the sidelines, but put him at the helm during one of the trickiest political times in living memory and what has he got...?

He can't bluster through it when he's got a significant section of his own party (or at least recently of it) joining in the fight to defend due and proper process being followed.

He's being very badly advised - is it time to start feeling sorry for Boris?

No, No, a thousand times no!

As others have said, he has brought it all upon himself.

But a lot of people will also think he is "doing the right thing". Being a Remainer, I can cope with the idea of trying to get BREXIT sorted out, but it is the way he is doing it that matters. Jess Phillips in Parliament today was seeking reassurance that there is not a deliberate strategy of stirring up hate and division. I guess she is limited by the etiquette and protocols of parliament as to what she can say, but anyone with any sense can see that is exactly what is going on.
 




Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
4,652
No, No, a thousand times no!

As others have said, he has brought it all upon himself.

But a lot of people will also think he is "doing the right thing". Being a Remainer, I can cope with the idea of trying to get BREXIT sorted out, but it is the way he is doing it that matters. Jess Phillips in Parliament today was seeking reassurance that there is not a deliberate strategy of stirring up hate and division. I guess she is limited by the etiquette and protocols of parliament as to what she can say, but anyone with any sense can see that is exactly what is going on.


Doubtless you are arrogantly including yourself with having sense, whereas others of course have not. As to whether hysteria is now being whipped up, I suggest that this has been happening for quite some time caused by all sides. Yes, Boris has managed to annoy many folk, but then so have rapid remainers determined to thwart what at the end of the day the majority voted for.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
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Doubtless you are arrogantly including yourself with having sense, whereas others of course have not. As to whether hysteria is now being whipped up, I suggest that this has been happening for quite some time caused by all sides. Yes, Boris has managed to annoy many folk, but then so have rapid remainers determined to thwart what at the end of the day the majority voted for.

The majority didn't vote for anything. Why are remainers rapid?
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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The majority didn't vote for anything. Why are remainers rapid?

I meant rabid, as you well know, but again you can't resist being sarcastic, despite the hypocritical rubbish underneath lecturing others about being rude. The majority voted to leave the EU -not sure why you are questioning this?
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
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Doubtless you are arrogantly including yourself with having sense, whereas others of course have not. As to whether hysteria is now being whipped up, I suggest that this has been happening for quite some time caused by all sides. Yes, Boris has managed to annoy many folk, but then so have rapid remainers determined to thwart what at the end of the day the majority voted for.

Firstly, I would doubt whether anyone would admit they did not have any sense, so I rather resent the word arrogantly, but hey-ho.
Secondly, I am not accusing anybody else of NOT having any sense.
Thirdly, I agree about and am deeply worried about the level of division in the country, and agree that both sides are guilty of it.
But fourthly, I personally am certain that the Cummings inspired present regime is deliberately seeking to make it worse.
And fifthly, are we that sure what specifically people voted for? Isn't that the problem?
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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Firstly, I would doubt whether anyone would admit they did not have any sense, so I rather resent the word arrogantly, but hey-ho.
Secondly, I am not accusing anybody else of NOT having any sense.
Thirdly, I agree about and am deeply worried about the level of division in the country, and agree that both sides are guilty of it.
But fourthly, I personally am certain that the Cummings inspired present regime is deliberately seeking to make it worse.
And fifthly, are we that sure what specifically people voted for? Isn't that the problem?

Ok, perhaps the word arrogantly was a bit OTT, but then it was that shade dismissive of you to suggest that anyone with any sense would see matters your way. Sorry. You and I don't always agree but I think it is fair to say that we both see ourselves as reasonable posters. Yes, you are right about the way the country is going and the level of division is indeed worrying. But when you say that one side -the side you don't like, of course -is deliberately making matters worse, you are then equally as guilty of carrying on the division. It might just be that that side is fed up with being thwarted by the other side determined to prevent what a majority voted for. As to your point about specifics, the whole tie with the EU is so incredibly intricate, that I am not sure anyone really knows exactly and to a minute degree what is at stake. Leavers want to go, perhaps without fully realising what is at stake, and remainers want to remain, again not totally appreciating that there may be a better option in that membership of the EU might be in some respects restrictive.
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Ok, perhaps the word arrogantly was a bit OTT, but then it was that shade dismissive of you to suggest that anyone with any sense would see matters your way. Sorry. You and I don't always agree but I think it is fair to say that we both see ourselves as reasonable posters. Yes, you are right about the way the country is going and the level of division is indeed worrying. But when you say that one side -the side you don't like, of course -is deliberately making matters worse, you are then equally as guilty of carrying on the division. It might just be that that side is fed up with being thwarted by the other side determined to prevent what a majority voted for. As to your point about specifics, the whole tie with the EU is so incredibly intricate, that I am not sure anyone really knows exactly and to a minute degree what is at stake. Leavers want to go, perhaps without fully realising what is at stake, and remainers want to remain, again not totally appreciating that there may be a better option in that membership of the EU might be in some respects restrictive.

Point taken, and sorry in return!
 






BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Listening to the various news items on the radio there appears to be more and more QCs saying they thought the Supreme Court judges misinterpreted the law and made a wrong decision but I suppose that is what keeps them all working.
 
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Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
25,511
Worthing
Listening to the various news items on the radio there appears to be more and more QGs saying they thought the Supreme Court judges misinterpreted the law and made a wrong decision but I suppose that is what keeps them all working.

Oh bless BG......have you just woken up from your nap.
 




Palacefinder General

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Apr 5, 2019
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Listening to the various news items on the radio there appears to be more and more QGs saying they thought the Supreme Court judges misinterpreted the law and made a wrong decision but I suppose that is what keeps them all working.

Vote Lib Dem, BG, we don’t want any of your Haywards Heath Tory shite on here.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Listening to the various news items on the radio there appears to be more and more QGs saying they thought the Supreme Court judges misinterpreted the law and made a wrong decision but I suppose that is what keeps them all working.

I appreciate it takes a lot of hard work to become a Queens Guide, but I doubt they have enough legal knowledge to criticise the Supreme Court.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I meant rabid, as you well know, but again you can't resist being sarcastic, despite the hypocritical rubbish underneath lecturing others about being rude. The majority voted to leave the EU -not sure why you are questioning this?

17.4 million people is not a majority of the electorate especially when postal votes went missing, arrived late, and many people were denied a vote.
The government's QC James Eadie admitted in the High Court, that the referendum was corrupted.

I'm sorry you've lost your sense of humour.
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
4,652
17.4 million people is not a majority of the electorate especially when postal votes went missing, arrived late, and many people were denied a vote.

I'm sorry you've lost your sense of humour.

I think I would call that scraping the barrel in a desperate attempt to avoid the reality regarding the outcome of the referendum. How do you even know that the postal votes would not have increased the figure of those wanting to leave?! And just to let you know, I voted remain, but accept that when the major parties all agreed to hold a referendum, the result of that should then be implemented, and not thwarted just because you didn't like the result.
 








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