[Football] 'Top flight needs Villa vibrancy' Stan Collymore.

[Simster]

Is it not effectively 6 teams...the media darlings?

I have amended your post for honesty matey...

I think we are probably more than tolerated all the while we have a state of the art stadium and are filling it up with 30,000 every single week. As things stand, we're more like Southampton and Leicester only without the top flight tradition. We'll only join that less fashionable gang if and when the novelty wears off and if we continually find ourselves in a relegation battle.

 

[father_and_son]

It wouldn't be based on merit or any form of league position. It would be an "exclusive" club where teams were invited to join based on their international appeal rather than any other measure.

 

[BBassic]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-25/fifa-is-about-to-destroy-world-soccer

Plans are afoot to create a new club competition occurring every four years with a $1.9b (£1.4b) prize fund.

The rich clubs will get richer and the rest of us will be bumble along behind.

 

[lancyclaret]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-25/fifa-is-about-to-destroy-world-soccer

Plans are afoot to create a new club competition occurring every four years with a $1.9b (£1.4b) prize fund.

The rich clubs will get richer and the rest of us will be bumble along behind.

Thankfully this idea has already been shot down - the Juventus owner was particularly scathing and dismissive.

 

[BBassic]

Thankfully this idea has already been shot down - the Juventus owner was particularly scathing and dismissive.

I read in the article that Spain was dead-set against it but hadn't known any clubs specifically saying "hell no"

Good to hear.

 

[DavidRyder]

I want to hear Stan CollyLESS on my radio now.

 

[Nixonator]

Having typed that I wonder, if this did occur, how they would determine which teams 'qualified' for the Super League? Would they just say, the top 6 at the end of this season qualify, or would they exclude the 'over-achieving' smaller clubs, like Burnley and Leicester (over recent years) and use some sort of average?

It would be determined by finding the 6 most popular English clubs in Malaysia. Global appeal will be the only deciding factor when creating such a league.

 

[brakespear]

There's always been so called smaller clubs in the top flight though so his argument is redundant. Just had a quick look at the 91/92 season for example - last season before the Prem. It included Oldham, Luton, Notts County, Wimbledon, amongst other smaller clubs like Palace, QPR, Coventry, Norwich.

 

[Weststander]

It wouldn't be based on merit or any form of league position. It would be an "exclusive" club where teams were invited to join based on their international appeal rather than any other measure.

And what would be exclusive today about Derby for example? Way way down the pecking order of UK conurbations.

Separately, clubs like Villa and Leeds should have been run properly in the first place, which probably would have prevented their falls from grace. Villa overspent on players/wages their true income didn’t warrant in the O’Neill era (until Lerner had enough) and the same but more extreme at Leeds under Risdale.

 

[Icy Gull]

I would suggest that it's probably more likely that the 'weeding' will occur from the top with the formation of a European Super League, and we lose the top 5 or 6 forever, which I think would be a MASSIVE plus for English football, with a much fairer structure and the chance for many more teams to actually win the league.

Having typed that I wonder, if this did occur, how they would determine which teams 'qualified' for the Super League? Would they just say, the top 6 at the end of this season qualify, or would they exclude the 'over-achieving' smaller clubs, like Burnley and Leicester (over recent years) and use some sort of average?

Some sort of closed shop of teams voted by other European giants being invited to join I imagine. They could then just weed out Leicester and Burnley size clubs however great their recent successes may have been.

 

[mikeyjh]

I object to the idea that Nottingham Forest are in any way, shape or form a 'big club'. They came tenth last season in Championship attendances, below mighty Norwich. And apart from an FA Cup in the 19th century and another in 1959, every single thing they have ever won came during the Brian Clough - Peter Taylor era. We talk about our chums up the road being a one-man team but Forest are a two-man club. And neither of them is Stan Collymore.

The Premier League doesn't need them any more than it needs Sheffield United, Ipswich or Wigan.

In fairness, I object to the whole debate about whether a club is 'big' out not, it's puerile and pointless BUT if we're going to have it, I think 2 European cup wins gives you life membership of the big club club.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Some sort of closed shop of teams voted by other European giants being invited to join I imagine. They could then just weed out Leicester and Burnley size clubs however great their recent successes may have been.

So the clubs from the UK they would choose would be:

1. Manchester United - of course - biggest English club
2. Manchester City - massive spending power - recently bought a league title
3. Chelsea - Fairly recent league and Champions League winners
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal

Then ... 6. Everton?

Or

6. Celtic
7. Cardiff?

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think the Top 6 deserve their own official category in the media. I'm sick of clicking on 'Transfer News' to see every story dominated by speculation surrounding the Top 6.

It would be quite funny if the Beeb had the balls to divide Transfer Talk into "Top 6" and "Premier League 2 -The Rest".

 

[Albion_Dave]

So the clubs from the UK they would choose would be:

1. Manchester United - of course - biggest English club
2. Manchester City - massive spending power - recently bought a league title
3. Chelsea - Fairly recent league and Champions League winners
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal

Then ... 6. Everton?

Or

6. Celtic
7. Cardiff?

Liverpool?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Liverpool?

Oh yes, I had a feeling I'd forgotten one

 

[Icy Gull]

[QUOzzTE=Papa Lazarou;8467582]So the clubs from the UK they would choose would be:

1. Manchester United - of course - biggest English club
2. Manchester City - massive spending power - recently bought a league title
3. Chelsea - Fairly recent league and Champions League winners
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6 Liverpool
[/QUOTE]


Sorted. So do the Premier League get to vote who gets auto promotion from the Championship

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Not really ^

 

[Icy Gull]

Not really ^

Why’s that then?

 

[sydney]

what

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Why’s that then?

Nope. Quotes still a mess - have another go.