[NSC] Toilet trained children.

[Tubby Mondays]

If you want to respond to the OP with childish comments, that just aren't remotely funny, then "feel free".

Do your parents know you are still up...?

You’ll have to direct me to the post you have made positively contributing to the topic under discussion?

 

[cjd]

You’ll have to direct me to the post you have made positively contributing to the topic under discussion?

lol....Why on earth should I do that...?

I will apologise for the sarcasm in my previous post. I occasionally respond like that when sarcasm is aimed at me.

It was cheap and unnecessary.

 

[Tubby Mondays]

lol....Why on earth should I do that...?

I will apologise for the sarcasm in my previous post. I occasionally respond like that when sarcasm is aimed at me.

It was cheap and unnecessary.

Thanks but no need to apologise.

I’m a grown up.

 

[Eric the meek]

lol....Why on earth should I do that...?

I will apologise for the sarcasm in my previous post. I occasionally respond like that when sarcasm is aimed at me.

It was cheap and unnecessary.

This is a serious subject. We may be looking at a societal trend, perhaps partly pandemic based, or perhaps something that none of us have spotted.

Forgive me, but all your posts seem to be sniping at other posters. What on earth is the point? What does it achieve?

Why don't you contribute something positive? I have no doubt that you are capable of doing so.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

That doesn't make sense. Parents were at home with their children. Perfect time to potty train.

Kids learn from other kids not just their parents.

 

[Eric the meek]

This is why it always amuses me when oldies moan about the generation(s) below.
A little more introspection about how their generation might have done a better job raising the next and providing the environment for them to flourish might be in order...

[rapidly dons tin hat...]

No tin hats required here.

As the parent of little ones I recall, what is your view of the current toilet training crisis?

 

[cjd]

This is a serious subject. We may be looking at a societal trend, perhaps partly pandemic based, or perhaps something that none of us have spotted.

Forgive me, but all your posts seem to be sniping at other posters. What on earth is the point? What does it achieve?

Why don't you contribute something positive? I have no doubt that you are capable of doing so.

If you're happy to see the way this forum is going, that's up to you.


Very occasionally, I want to point out my view of how disappointing it is that what was once, one of the best forums I have ever known but has nose-dived of late in quality.

It still has some brilliant posters. Both informative and amusing at times. They are somewhat outnumbered now.

It's my opinion. There is no doubt that differing opinions are less and less respected here these days.

My thanks by the way to your postings on the Russian Ukraine War. Very informative.

 

[SeagullsoverLondon]

They may have learning difficulties. Be kinder people.

I do have enormous sympathy for those children and their parents, and from my experience, there does seem to be a growing issue with children with learning needs that clearly isn't being discussed widely enough and should have made that more clear in my post, which as @WATFORD zero suggested was aimed at those people who somehow think it is someone else's responsibility to parent their children.

 

[seagurl]

It has very little to do with the pandemic. I've been an Early Years teacher in a Reception class and children starting Reception in nappies has been happening long before Covid. Disposable nappies enable children to be comfortable even when wet. They are so cheap in supermarkets now. Long gone are the days when we had to boil wash towelling nappies . We couldn't wait to toilet train our children. Working mothers also have to leave some of the responsibilty for training to nursery staff which can't be easy if you have 6 or more babies to train.

 

[Eric the meek]

It has very little to do with the pandemic. I've been an Early Years teacher in a Reception class and children starting Reception in nappies has been happening long before Covid. Disposable nappies enable children to be comfortable even when wet. They are so cheap in supermarkets now. Long gone are the days when we had to boil wash towelling nappies . We couldn't wait to toilet train our children. Working mothers also have to leave some of the responsibilty for training to nursery staff which can't be easy if you have 6 or more babies to train.

This. 100%. Word for word.

I had a suspicion that this was a longer term trend than Covid but wasn't sure.

 

[MJsGhost]

No tin hats required here.

As the parent of little ones I recall, what is your view of the current toilet training crisis?

Well remembered!

My view is that before the pandemic, some potty-training heavy-lifting was being done by family and/or nurseries as some parents couldn't/wouldn't train them. Covid took away that safety net, so more kids are getting through to school age without being potty trained.

It's no secret that parenting is hard, so take away support and things can and will slip.

My eldest (3 and a half) has been nappy free (day and night) for a year now, with only a handful (maybe 2 handfuls) of accidents, so yay me (and Mrs MJsGhost)

Still a year or so until we start training #2 (no sh|t pun intended @cjd), so I hope I haven't just jinxed it with him.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

It has very little to do with the pandemic. I've been an Early Years teacher in a Reception class and children starting Reception in nappies has been happening long before Covid. Disposable nappies enable children to be comfortable even when wet. They are so cheap in supermarkets now. Long gone are the days when we had to boil wash towelling nappies . We couldn't wait to toilet train our children. Working mothers also have to leave some of the responsibilty for training to nursery staff which can't be easy if you have 6 or more babies to train.

Disposable nappies aren't exactly new though are they? The pandemic has had a pretty significant impact on many aspects of child development, there are plenty of studies around.

My personal opinion is that parents are softer, nursery's are overworked and there is a huge window of people and children who've been jolted by having no social life for 2 years.

 

[Eric the meek]

Well remembered!

My view is that before the pandemic, some potty-training heavy-lifting was being done by family and/or nurseries as some parents couldn't/wouldn't train them. Covid took away that safety net, so more kids are getting through to school age without being potty trained.

It's no secret that parenting is hard, so take away support and things can and will slip.

My eldest (3 and a half) has been nappy free (day and night) for a year now, with only a handful (maybe 2 handfuls) of accidents, so yay me (and Mrs MJsGhost)

Still a year or so until we start training #2 (no sh|t pun intended @cjd), so I hope I haven't just jinxed it with him.

A yay from me as well. Nappy free for a year at 3 and a half is top 4 Premier League standard potty training.

Top tip from this old parent: when you think you've cleared the kitchen of all risk, go and check again. My then two year old came running in to the front room, and said 'Look Daddy!'. He was holding a meat cleaver.

 

[MJsGhost]

My then two year old came running in to the front room, and said 'Look Daddy!'. He was holding a meat cleaver.

Maybe it was his way of telling you he didn't want to use the potty?

My youngest managed to climb up our (very steep) stairs a week before his first birthday on my watch. He just sat at the top grinning at me while I took the stairs 3 at a time to get to him before he tried to go back down. #LAD

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

If you want to respond to the OP with childish comments, that just aren't remotely funny, then "feel free".

Do your parents know you are still up...?

They will when I shit myself shortly

 

[cjd]

This is a serious subject. We may be looking at a societal trend, perhaps partly pandemic based, or perhaps something that none of us have spotted.

Forgive me, but all your posts seem to be sniping at other posters. What on earth is the point? What does it achieve?

Why don't you contribute something positive? I have no doubt that you are capable of doing so.

Much against my better judgement, I have decided to respond on this particular thread.

I have been incredibly fortunate in my life with many things, but nothing quite so fortunate as that with my children. I have had six of them.

Fortunately, when the suggestion of 'potty training' came along, I like to think I played my part. Just one particular golden rule;....If you start early it usually takes longer. If you start later, it's usually a relatively quick time period.

However, my part was mainly at the weekends as I would run around the house , potty in hand, studying their expressions etc etc as to whether it was the right time to sit them on it....all the while cheering them on and when finally successful that awful hurrahs and cheering as if they have just won a Gold Medal at the Olympics.

The thing is this ..( in my opinion ). Their mum was lucky enough to be a home mum. I was lucky enough that I only participated mainly at the weekends. It's tiring....and needs a lot of determination and ...stamina.

A lot of new'ish mums these days work from home due to simple economics. To do a job and childcare is tough. Very, very tough.

I don't believe that todays mums are any less caring , loving and nurturing than they have ever been before. They just often have too much to do.

I'm not sure Covid plays a major part and I think at times people are far too easily hanging their coat on that when the going gets tough.

The answer..? No idea, but some understanding wouldn't go amiss.

It is a serious subject and the above is just my opinion, not a fact and not something I want to argue relentlessly about.

Thankyou.