[Albion] Todays ref Stuart Attwell

[BensGrandad]

I have just watched MOTD which I recorded and am even more convinced that it was an accident as Kolisniac never took his eyes off of the ball and was watching it when they collided.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Also, why don't some ref / assistant combos give foul throws? There was on that Wilshere took in front of the West which was one of the most blatant foul throws I've seen in some time. He was walking onto the pitch as he threw it.

 

[BensGrandad]

Also, why don't some ref / assistant combos give foul throws? There was on that Wilshere took in front of the West which was one of the most blatant foul throws I've seen in some time. He was walking onto the pitch as he threw it.

I was told by a top ref they have been told to ignore them in order to keep the game flowing unless the offending team gains a great advantage.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I was told by a top ref they have been told to ignore them in order to keep the game flowing unless the offending team gains a great advantage.

How come Serge Aurier was done for 3 in the Palace match? Also, how do you gain an advantage from a foul throw - unless they're referring to stealing yards down the line?

 

[Perry Milkins]

I was told by a top ref they have been told to ignore them in order to keep the game flowing unless the offending team gains a great advantage.

which one Gramps?

 

[Richy_Seagull]

The tackle that Stephens go booked for was the one good thing he did all game. Atwell basically lost the plot after the Schelotto incident and gave us nothing from that moment on.

Contender for thickest Albion fan has made themselves clear.

 

[BensGrandad]

How come Serge Aurier was done for 3 in the Palace match? Also, how do you gain an advantage from a foul throw - unless they're referring to stealing yards down the line?

It is only advisory as they obviously cannot tell them to break the rules.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I have just watched MOTD which I recorded and am even more convinced that it was an accident as Kolisniac never took his eyes off of the ball and was watching it when they collided.

The reason it wasn't an accident is because if you watch Kolisniac he looks at Schelotto long enough to judge exactly what he was doing. Schelotto doesn't look at Kolisniac once and is completely focussed on the ball. Once Kolisniac sees Schelotto, he knows what he's going to do, take Schelotto out with his shoulder, and can look at the ball while that is happening because he knows he won't get hurt leading with his shoulder.

I realise it is futile me telling you this, but I thought I would anyway.

 

[BensGrandad]

which one Gramps?

An old Div 1 ref Ray Lewis but I doubt if the advice has been changed in recent times judging by the number of times it happens.

 

[Springal]

An old Div 1 ref Ray Lewis but I doubt if the advice has been changed in recent times judging by the number of times it happens.

He stopped refereeing in 1993....

 

[BensGrandad]

The reason it wasn't an accident is because if you watch Kolisniac he looks at Schelotto long enough to judge exactly what he was doing. Schelotto doesn't look at Kolisniac once and is completely focussed on the ball. Once Kolisniac sees Schelotto, he knows what he's going to do, take Schelotto out with his shoulder, and can look at the ball while that is happening because he knows he won't get hurt leading with his shoulder.

I realise it is futile me telling you this, but I thought I would anyway.

That is your opinion and I disagree as did the ref and lino, stood some yards away with a good view, and nothing was made of it on MOTD by Shearer and Gullitt so they didnt consider it worthy of emphasis or a card.

The telling point will be if retro action is taken as Dermot Gallacher, who was one of the worst ever refs, says it should have been a red card apparemtly

 

[Napier's Knee]

The reason it wasn't an accident is because if you watch Kolisniac he looks at Schelotto long enough to judge exactly what he was doing. Schelotto doesn't look at Kolisniac once and is completely focussed on the ball. Once Kolisniac sees Schelotto, he knows what he's going to do, take Schelotto out with his shoulder, and can look at the ball while that is happening because he knows he won't get hurt leading with his shoulder.

I realise it is futile me telling you this, but I thought I would anyway.

exactly - it really is noticeable that Kolasinac is looking at Schelotto and actually raises his shoulder just before contact - it was quite deliberate

 

[BensGrandad]

He stopped refereeing in 1993....

I know but seeing how many times it happens I doubt if the advice has changed or been brought up to date.

 

[dingodan]

Pierluigi Collina would have called it right.

 

[BensGrandad]

exactly - it really is noticeable that Kolasinac is looking at Schelotto and actually raises his shoulder just before contact - it was quite deliberate

IMHO he was protecting himself.

 

[Stat Brother]

Schelotto was never ever getting past, Kolasinac made sure of that.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

That is your opinion and I disagree as did the ref and lino, stood some yards away with a good view, and nothing was made of it on MOTD by Shearer and Gullitt so they didnt consider it worthy of emphasis or a card.

The telling point will be if retro action is taken as Dermot Gallacher, who was one of the worst ever refs, says it should have been a red card apparemtly

I think the Arsenal player knew exactly what he was doing, in terms of ‘roughing up’ Schelotto.

Yellow card for me.

The fact that MOTD didn’t mention it is irrelevant for me. I would argue that the BT coverage mentioned it, and felt straight red. So differing opinions by ex-pro’s......... nothing new there.


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[albionite]

IMHO he was protecting himself.

Imho you don’t know what you are talking about and never have, but I suppose it puts your post count up.

 

[Weststander]

I think the Arsenal player knew exactly what he was doing, in terms of ‘roughing up’ Schelotto.

Yellow card for me.

The fact that MOTD didn’t mention it is irrelevant for me. I would argue that the BT coverage mentioned it, and felt straight red. So differing opinions by ex-pro’s......... nothing new there.


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This. It was a cowardly and totally unnecessary shoulder charge.

MOTD2 in limited time had enough on its plate with our great play and laughing at Arsenal.

In any case, you always get the old pals Act in defending violence by players.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I have just watched MOTD which I recorded and am even more convinced that it was an accident as Kolisniac never took his eyes off of the ball and was watching it when they collided.

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