Today's Argus - Orlandi may be back for Saturday

[Urchin]

So how do you explain better players missing easier, proper open goal, chances.

Worried when it does happen but I have hardly ever seen somebody who has rounded the keeper and has an open goal in front of them miss the target.

 

[saafend_seagull]

The 2 goals that Corfts have scored the last 2 games mean nothing. He was shocking against Birmingham but managed to score. He scored again on Saturday but did nothing special in the midfield of the field and I think it would have been harder to miss than score from Ulloa's cross.

Mean nothing?

Won us two points.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Worried when it does happen but I have hardly ever seen somebody who has rounded the keeper and has an open goal in front of them miss the target.

What the HELL are you talking about? Are we actually talking about the same goal? Or are you just making random stuff up, now?

 

[Urchin]

Stop worrying, he scored. Hope he plays on Saturday.........

I'm not worried at all. Just getting frustrated with the morons on here who have ignored my original point on this thread from the beginning and decided to pull out words from what I have said and argue them.

As I said, my original point was just questioning why people were saying he was undroppable. Because apart from the goal which I said all professional footballers should at least get on target, and the good goal scored against Birmingham, he hasn't exactly set the world a light in other aspects of his game. He was good/average against Burnley and woeful against Brum and Leeds. Hence why I questioned why he was undroppable and asked if people would have said the same if he hadn't scored. I don't think they would.

 

[Urchin]

What the HELL are you talking about? Are we actually talking about the same goal? Or are you just making random stuff up, now?

Err sorry Mr Clever boy. I'm not talking about this goal. If you would like to read the the rest of the quotes, maybe you can try and use your clever brain to work it out!

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Err sorry Mr Clever boy. I'm not talking about this goal. If you would like to read the the rest of the quotes, maybe you can try and use your clever brain to work it out!

I'd stop digging if I were you.

 

[The Large One]

So to take a shot with a moving ball going across you, while you are slightly off-balance having had to change the angle of your run at the last couple of strides while someone is closing in on you is easier than a penalty?

No wonder we miss so many penalties.

 

[saafend_seagull]

I'm not worried at all. Just getting frustrated with the morons on here who have ignored my original point on this thread from the beginning and decided to pull out words from what I have said and argue them.

As I said, my original point was just questioning why people were saying he was undroppable. Because apart from the goal which I said all professional footballers should at least get on target, and the good goal scored against Birmingham, he hasn't exactly set the world a light in other aspects of his game. He was good/average against Burnley and woeful against Brum and Leeds. Hence why I questioned why he was undroppable and asked if people would have said the same if he hadn't scored. I don't think they would.

No you said his two goals mean NOTHING.

Good job our management team are not each like a plank of wood like you, eh?

 

[Mellotron]

Even if a player hasn't been playing great, 2 goals in 2 games should mean their confidence is sky high and sometimes you should just go with that momentum and not question it.

 

[Urchin]

No you said his two goals mean NOTHING.

Good job our management team are not each like a plank of wood like you, eh?

When I was talking to somebody about his performance. Maybe if you weren't a plank of wood, you might be able to work that one out.

 

[Urchin]

Even if a player hasn't been playing great, 2 goals in 2 games should mean their confidence is sky high and sometimes you should just go with that momentum and not question it.

Well said. I was just asking people if they would have had him down as undroppable if he hadn't scored against Burnley and I've been slaughtered for it.

 

[saafend_seagull]

Well said. I was just asking people if they would have had him down as undroppable if he hadn't scored against Burley and I've been slaughtered for it.

The hole just gets bigger and bigger.

ROFL.

 

[Urchin]

I'd stop digging if I were you.

Not digging at all mate. He's just tried to make me look stupid multiple times during this thread and has been wrong both times. Probably why he hasn't replied to me both of those points and instead, decided to pick words out of what I have been saying to dig himself out.

 

[Urchin]

The hole just gets bigger and bigger.

ROFL.

Would you care to explain?

 

[saafend_seagull]

Would you care to explain?

Well if your brain can't understand than 3 points > 1 point, then no. I can't explain it any better than that.

 

[Urchin]

Well if your brain can't understand than 3 points > 1 point, then no. I can't explain it any better than that.

I can understand that. So could you add a bit more as I'm not quite sure what point you are making?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Err sorry Mr Clever boy. I'm not talking about this goal. If you would like to read the the rest of the quotes, maybe you can try and use your clever brain to work it out!

I can read fairly well, thanks. What you're saying effectively is that you've 'almost' never seen any player miss an easier chance, than the one Crofts scored on Saturday. The crux of your argument seems to be (I'll be generous here, and ignore that it was a moving ball, and that he was sprinting on to it, and that he had a defender in close proximity, and that he had to take it first time) that because the keeper was 'off balance' we can effectively rule him out of the equation altogether. I will cede to you that IF you retrospectively remove the keeper and the close-by defender from the frame, it becomes a very simple chance;

Not digging at all mate. He's just tried to make me look stupid multiple times during this thread and has been wrong both times. Probably why he hasn't replied to me both of those points and instead, decided to pick words out of what I have been saying to dig himself out.

Sorry about that. I really do have to do a bit of work, in between posts. I'm not trying to make you look stupid. You are continuing to make your points. People will judge them as they see them.

 

[Stat Brother]

In fairness we only have 3 'undroppable' players.

Tommy K
Ward
&
Ulloa.

With Greer and Upson unlikely to be dropped.

We are now on our second 'midfield-centric' (neither have been touched by the hand of Pulis) managers.

The midfield is the clear battle ground and although both managers have approached it from opposite directions, both clearly needed those positions to be very competitive.
To that ends, no player, is undroppable.

 

[Sussex on Leith]

I'm [...] worried. [...] Just getting frustrated with [...] what I have said [...] my original point was just [...] woeful [...]. Hence why I questioned [...] if people would have said the same [...]. I don't think they would.

My sympathy mate. There's nothing worse than people quoting your words selectively in order to twist the meaning.

 

[Urchin]

I can read fairly well, thanks. What you're saying effectively is that you've 'almost' never seen any player miss an easier chance, than the one Crofts scored on Saturday. The crux of your argument seems to be (I'll be generous here, and ignore that it was a moving ball, and that he was sprinting on to it, and that he had a defender in close proximity, and that he had to take it first time) that because the keeper was 'off balance' we can effectively rule him out of the equation altogether. I will cede to you that IF you retrospectively remove the keeper from the frame, it becomes a very simple chance.



Sorry about that. I really do have to do a bit of work, in between posts. I'm not trying to make you look stupid. You are continuing to make your points. People will judge them as they see them.

No. I was replying to somebody who asked what I felt about better players than Crofts who miss true open goals and I said that I get worried that they're paid to kick a ball for a living but also said I have rarely seen a player round the keeper with a clear sight on goal and put it wide.

I appreciate you have work to do. I do as well. But yourself and a few others throughout this thread haven't answered a simple question that I asked but instead decided to pick words out of my points and question them, when all I tried to do was make a simple point. You may not be deliberately trying to make me look stupid, but the escalation of picking out words and ignoring my original simple point has made me look stupid on here.

Probably best to agree to disagree on this one!