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[Politics] To give Boris Johnson credit....



therealdsg

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Sep 3, 2011
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Preston Park
Lefty leavers?

Not everyone on the left voted remain. A significant number of left wing people disagree with the EU’s neoliberalistic setup, the globalism it promotes and also have grave concerns over some policies - the permission it gave Greek banks to use protected, risk-free client monies to bail themselves out for example.
 




daveinplzen

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Aug 31, 2018
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Not everyone on the left voted remain. A significant number of left wing people disagree with the EU’s neoliberalistic setup, the globalism it promotes and also have grave concerns over some policies - the permission it gave Greek banks to use protected, risk-free client monies to bail themselves out for example.

I dont consider Brexit to be left/right, more emotional/realistic.
 


WATFORD zero

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NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,772
A strange choice by Johnson for his Attorney General. She belongs to a controversial Buddhist sect.


https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...rsial-buddhist-sect?__twitter_impression=true

In her last Ministerial role, I understand there was a common sense of incredulity that she had managed to qualify as a barrister, so it is a somewhat meteoric rise to Chief legal adviser to the Crown and the Government.

Still, at least she is going into an experienced Cabinet (Liz Truss being the current longest serving member) :laugh:
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
In her last Ministerial role, I understand there was a common sense of incredulity that she had managed to qualify as a barrister, so it is a somewhat meteoric rise to Chief legal adviser to the Crown and the Government.

Still, at least she is going into an experienced Cabinet (Liz Truss being the current longest serving member) :laugh:

A junior barrister, as she isn't a QC.
 






Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
In her last Ministerial role, I understand there was a common sense of incredulity that she had managed to qualify as a barrister, so it is a somewhat meteoric rise to Chief legal adviser to the Crown and the Government.

Still, at least she is going into an experienced Cabinet (Liz Truss being the current longest serving member) :laugh:

I think the calibre of the Cabinet can be judged by the way in which they kicked off with Johnson expecting them to chant the answers the questions such as 'how many police officers are we going to recruit?" And chant they did! Extraordinary that they could willingly submit to such humiliation and not even realise it.
 








Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Although I don't disagree with you, what examples can you give of his lying over the decades?

I see quite a few people have commented with examples of his falsehoods since becoming PM, so here are some others that predate that:

He promised that the 5G network would be rolled out earlier that claimed. The man who is effectively in charge of 5G in the UK said at a conference, that Johnson's planned date was impossible;

He 'spaffed' millions up the wall on a garden bridge that never materialised;

He wrote two different columns – one pro-EU, one anti-EU – before nailing his colours to the 'Leave' mast. It stands to reason that one of them was bollox;

On more than one occasion, he's made up quotes and used them in his newspaper columns;

He made up claims about a 'Banana police force' and 'Eurocoffins';

In 1999 he said he wouldn't pursue a political career;

He blamed the Hillsborough disaster on 'drunken Liverpool fans';

As Mayor of London, he promised to get rid of rough sleepers (only for numbers to double) and he also committed to manned ticket offices at every tube station (it didn't happen);
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Boris Johnson ended Corbyn's career. He will also see off any further Labour leader in the next election. Wait and see.

Quite possibly. What that's got to do with what I wrote, I don't really know... :shrug:
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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So, following the sacking of all Treasury Spads, I see Cummings has started recruiting the 'weirdos and misfit' replacements for his new team.

Andrew Sabisky: anger grows at Cummings adviser’s quote that the benefits of giving children a mental performance-enhancing drug, which can occasionally prove fatal, are “probably worth a dead kid once a year”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-sabisky-anger-grows-at-cummings-adviser-s-dead-kid-quote-nwrk3tzx2

New calls for No10 to sack 'weirdo' advisor Andrew Sabisky, 27, who claimed black people are mentally inferior

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8011049/New-calls-No10-sack-weirdo-advisor-claimed-black-people-mentally-inferior.html

Boris Johnson told to sack adviser who backed compulsory contraception to prevent ‘a permanent underclass'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/johnson-adviser-andrew-sabisky-contraception-sterilisation-underclass-comments-a9338331.html

Just as well people knew what they were voting for when they backed Johnson ???
 




theonlymikey

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Apr 21, 2016
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So, following the sacking of all Treasury Spads, I see Cummings has started recruiting the 'weirdos and misfit' replacements for his new team.

Andrew Sabisky: anger grows at Cummings adviser’s quote that the benefits of giving children a mental performance-enhancing drug, which can occasionally prove fatal, are “probably worth a dead kid once a year”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-sabisky-anger-grows-at-cummings-adviser-s-dead-kid-quote-nwrk3tzx2

New calls for No10 to sack 'weirdo' advisor Andrew Sabisky, 27, who claimed black people are mentally inferior

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8011049/New-calls-No10-sack-weirdo-advisor-claimed-black-people-mentally-inferior.html

Boris Johnson told to sack adviser who backed compulsory contraception to prevent ‘a permanent underclass'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/johnson-adviser-andrew-sabisky-contraception-sterilisation-underclass-comments-a9338331.html

Just as well people knew what they were voting for when they backed Johnson ???



No 10 refuses to say if Johnson agrees with adviser who suggested black people are mentally inferior

Our political editor Andrew Woodcock has more on the extraordinary lobby briefing, in which a No 10 spokesman refused to say whether Boris Johnson agrees with an adviser who suggested black people were mentally inferior and advocated compulsory contraception to prevent a “permanent underclass”.

The spokesman was repeatedly asked whether the PM wished to distance himself from a string of controversial remarks made by Andrew Sabisky, recruited by senior adviser Dominic Cummings.

Presented with a series of Sabisky’s comments and asked whether the PM backed them or would condemn them, the spokesman responded only: “The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented.”

:eek:
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
No 10 refuses to say if Johnson agrees with adviser who suggested black people are mentally inferior

Our political editor Andrew Woodcock has more on the extraordinary lobby briefing, in which a No 10 spokesman refused to say whether Boris Johnson agrees with an adviser who suggested black people were mentally inferior and advocated compulsory contraception to prevent a “permanent underclass”.

The spokesman was repeatedly asked whether the PM wished to distance himself from a string of controversial remarks made by Andrew Sabisky, recruited by senior adviser Dominic Cummings.

Presented with a series of Sabisky’s comments and asked whether the PM backed them or would condemn them, the spokesman responded only: “The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented.”

:eek:
Tough call for the Number 10 spokesman.... Yes, Johnson's views are indeed well known, " Bank robbers and letterboxes " " Picanninies.... etc etc ".... We now have our own Kellyanne Conway!
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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On the Border
Also said this last year '"I am always straight up in saying that women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men's"

At least Cummings has set the bar high in his quest to employ more weirdos in Government.

It's not surprising that Johnson has failed to comment yet, as he probably hasn't asked Cummings for permission yet.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Also said this last year '"I am always straight up in saying that women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men's"

At least Cummings has set the bar high in his quest to employ more weirdos in Government.

It's not surprising that Johnson has failed to comment yet, as he probably hasn't asked Cummings for permission yet.

Under any normal circumstances the advisor would have gone by now. I'm also struggling to see what hold Cummings has over the PM.

This is going to end in tears. Fully expect a cabinet revolt.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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More quotes being unearthed regarding race and intelligence, suggesting it should be used in defining immigration policy.

How hasn't he been sacked ?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Under any normal circumstances the advisor would have gone by now. I'm also struggling to see what hold Cummings has over the PM.

This is going to end in tears. Fully expect a cabinet revolt.

This lot will do as they are told, the only two cabinet ministers with a shred of credibility were kicked out last week remember?
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
Under any normal circumstances the advisor would have gone by now. I'm also struggling to see what hold Cummings has over the PM.

This is going to end in tears. Fully expect a cabinet revolt.

Nah, look what happened when Grant Shapps spoke up about it. He said that he disagreed with the idea that black people were mentally inferior - and that was the Cabinet's view. The No 10 spokesman today said that was Shapps' personal view but it wasn't the cabinet's,

I do wonder how Sunak, Sharma, Patel et al can sit around that table knowing that they're there to make up the numbers and that the PM thinks they're not as intelligent as white people - particularly when they glance across at Liz Truss.
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
I do wonder how Sunak, Sharma, Patel et al can sit around that table knowing that they're there to make up the numbers and that the PM thinks they're not as intelligent as white people - particularly when they glance across at Liz Truss.

They represent a party that has as its leader, Boris ‘letterboxes & piccaninnies’ Johnson. A party that is, at its root, deeply islamophobic, so they obviously don’t care much about the parties views on race, not enough to make a stand at any rate.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
They represent a party that has as its leader, Boris ‘letterboxes & piccaninnies’ Johnson. A party that is, at its root, deeply islamophobic, so they obviously don’t care much about the parties views on race, not enough to make a stand at any rate.

Sunak, Patel and Sharma are all Hindus - at least by upbringing - so islamophobia wouldn't resonate so much
 


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