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[Albion] To Avoid Hürzeler Bashing - The Staying Up and Europe Tracker - season 2024-25 Game 17 Update







Zeberdi

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Pretty sure we could actually stay in 4th, if Forest get a spanking by Newcastle and lose by 4, Spurs don't beat Ipswich and Chelsea/Arsenal don't draw.

I wouldn't be putting money on it, but it's possible.
Not so - Chelsea or Arsenal will get at least one point tomorrow which will push us into 5th on GD.
 




GT49er

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Not if Forest lose by 4. We'd go ahead of them on goal difference.
Yes, and behind Spurs (as well as being behind Arsenal and Chelsea if they draw).

Forest win or draw would suit us better - keep Spurs in their place. Longer term our chances of finishing ahead of Forest are stronger than staying ahead of Spurs.
 


Madafwo

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Yes, and behind Spurs (as well as being behind Arsenal and Chelsea if they draw).

Forest win or draw would suit us better - keep Spurs in their place. Longer term our chances of finishing ahead of Forest are stronger than staying ahead of Spurs.
Spurs are playing Ipswich, are they not?
 






A1X

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Disappointing amount of bed wetting about our league position on this of all threads
 


Madafwo

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Spurs will go above us if they win; Forest won't lose by four.
I don't think they'll lose by 4 either, but if they did, we'd be ahead of them on goal difference.

You're right that Spurs will go ahead of us if they win, but if Ipswich beat Spurs, it has the added benefit of putting Palace in the relegation spots for the international break.

Not for one second do I think that we'll go into the break in 4th, but it isn't mathematically impossible.
 






Conkers

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A massive run for us now - no free hits (for European tracker). Either they are home games, or away to the non top 7/8 sides.
These next 5-6 games will be the real test of our European credentials - can we finally start to pick up wins against the “lesser” teams?
 






chaileyjem

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A massive run for us now - no free hits (for European tracker). Either they are home games, or away to the non top 7/8 sides.
These next 5-6 games will be the real test of our European credentials - can we finally start to pick up wins against the “lesser” teams?
Not sure our record is that bad against lesser teams. We just don't win that many football matches as a rule hence the draws etc v Ipswich or Wolves stand out. In 22/23 - not that long ago - we beat Bournemouth (twice), Palace, Southampton (twice) , Leicester, and Leeds. (as well as wins v Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool etc)
 


Peppermint Tea

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A massive run for us now - no free hits (for European tracker). Either they are home games, or away to the non top 7/8 sides.
These next 5-6 games will be the real test of our European credentials - can we finally start to pick up wins against the “lesser” teams?
Amen.

The next seven games are all winnable. If we return 16+ points from these games, then we will be solidly top 6. And, with just Liverpool seemingly being the only consistent “big” team right now, we would give ourselves a fantastic opportunity of European football again. These next few games really are…season defining.
 










Weststander

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Feeling greedy for a top 4 finish tracker.

Based on our squad is for the first time looking great with quality cover in most positions and I’m thinking the clubs playing in Europe this season may really suffer …. look at Villa, finding it far harder when you don’t have a week’s prep/rest/diving practice for a PL fixture.
 
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GT49er

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We're on our wayyyy, we're on our way!
To the Champions League, we're on our way!!
CL? Big ask! TBH, I'm not that bothered about the CL, I would rather enjoy a season in the European Conference League; winnable - and a real trophy! The Europa was, let's be honest, a step too far for us last season. The CL would probably be the same - rather than running before we can walk, I'd opt for the Conference 100% for our next foray into Europe.
Champions League? Let's get used to European football - and winning in it - first.
 




Home and Away

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CL? Big ask! TBH, I'm not that bothered about the CL, I would rather enjoy a season in the European Conference League; winnable - and a real trophy! The Europa was, let's be honest, a step too far for us last season. The CL would probably be the same - rather than running before we can walk, I'd opt for the Conference 100% for our next foray into Europe.
Champions League? Let's get used to European football - and winning in it - first.
Don't you want us to compete against the best? Playing TNS, Larne or Petrocub is not exactly the same.... worse than playing Crawley. But yes... I would be happy with any european competition again.

I thought EL was exactly our level (we won the group).
 




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