You think Qatar, Russia and the Saudis would be better for the job? ....... or gawd help us, the Swiss?And you think us and the USA are the nations to lead us to this promised land.
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[Football] Time to leave FIFA and start up & alternative governing body ?
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1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
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Did I say that?
Its a terrible idea.
FIFA is exceptionally well-run in most regards and is absolutely brilliant in a lot of ways that will be very, very difficult to copy. Yes there is corruption and poor/silly decisions but I really don't think it is any more corrupt than any other £30bn+ market... quite the opposite. Football is surprisingly clean and fair, considering the money involved.
The right way to go is to make FIFA more transparent and democratic, imho.
FIFA is exceptionally well-run in most regards and is absolutely brilliant in a lot of ways that will be very, very difficult to copy. Yes there is corruption and poor/silly decisions but I really don't think it is any more corrupt than any other £30bn+ market... quite the opposite. Football is surprisingly clean and fair, considering the money involved.
The right way to go is to make FIFA more transparent and democratic, imho.
Well, you denigrated the appropriateness of two basically socially progressive western nations, with no medieval laws about sexuality or women's rights, so the suggestion is that that you might prefer the alternative.
Or the institutionally (as far as football is concerned) corrupt Swiss world of Infantile and Splatter.
And to think once, “We were summit Ma”
More likely to go to Saudi Arabia is my guess.
I do wonder how seemingly FIFA managed to seperate the countries that wanted to display the armband and threaten them individually, thus ensuring they caved in. A sticking together by seven countries (with the possibility of one or two more, like the USA and Australia joining them) threatening to go home and totally wreck the whole competition if FIFA pressed ahead with its bullying might have given FIFA no choice, rather than giving the FA no choice.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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The armband thing shows how much power FiFA has. The fact that so many teams have caved with the threat of a yellow card is frankly pathetic.
Collectively the larger football nations should be standing up to FIFA and forcing them to be the organisation they should be. But we continue to cower and tug our forelocks to the corrupt overlords.
A breakaway would be great, a show of defiance would be okay. But we can't even risk a yellow card at this stage. A long way to go yet.
Collectively the larger football nations should be standing up to FIFA and forcing them to be the organisation they should be. But we continue to cower and tug our forelocks to the corrupt overlords.
A breakaway would be great, a show of defiance would be okay. But we can't even risk a yellow card at this stage. A long way to go yet.
See my post above yours - FIFA contrived to isolate and individually bully the national FAs. If the seven had stood together as a bloc, and said no to FIFA, would FIFA have caved in when faced with a prospect of a quarter of the teams walking out?
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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I agree but you have to ask why those nations didn't do that. Contriving to isolate nations is one thing. Managing to do that is quite another.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,016
everyone's overlooking the what FIFA is doing with arm bands is applying the laws of the game. they havent invented new ones for this cup. fairly certain the various associations knew what would happen, and played along to publicise the cause for as long as they could.
Surely that time was when Qatar was awarded the world cup, and if not then, as soon as it became clear that Qatar were enslaving migrant workers and then working them to death. That would have been a good time for all decent countries to say 'you know what, this isn't ok, we'll not play in Qatar'.
- Oct 20, 2022
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The biggest issue of Qatar hosting the WC is Human Rights and subsequently the cowardly restriction by FIFA to ban anyone from protesting against infringements of LGBTQ rights by wearing one love armbands - is this not considered justification enough alone to walk away from FIFA?
Fifa claims that it is “committed to respecting all internationally recognised human rights and shall strive to promote the protection of these rights.” This policy states that discrimination of any kind, including against sexual orientation, is “strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion”.
theconversation.com
Bollocks is it.
The FIFA tournament rules of official equipment/clothing is also being used to deliberately suppress LGBTQ anti-discrimination statements- otherwise why would FIFA issue their own armbands protesting against discrimination minus any mention of discrimination on the grounds of sexuality?
Fifa claims that it is “committed to respecting all internationally recognised human rights and shall strive to promote the protection of these rights.” This policy states that discrimination of any kind, including against sexual orientation, is “strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion”.
World Cup 2022: Fifa’s clampdown on rainbow armbands conflicts with its own guidance on human rights
The decision to only pay lip service to discrimination could have long term impacts.
theconversation.com
Bollocks is it.
The FIFA tournament rules of official equipment/clothing is also being used to deliberately suppress LGBTQ anti-discrimination statements- otherwise why would FIFA issue their own armbands protesting against discrimination minus any mention of discrimination on the grounds of sexuality?
- Oct 20, 2022
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No, no one is over looking that so an apologist approach to what FIFA are doing is unacceptable - fans are having hats removed - nothing to do with equipment rules.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,016
subject was the arm bands, dont go switching to fans hats. unless there has been a rule change, the arm band issue entirely predictable.