Mr Popkins
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Sven will NOT be sacked as the compensation the F.A will have to pay will be massive!!!
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Time to Change the Manager....
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lincs seagull
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yeah but it is nice to get close
Marshy
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Sven has had more than one tournament now.
If we do go out I want to see us going out playing the way i know we can play, not defending for our lives for 90% of the
game.
If we had gone out being beaten 2-1 comfotably in normal time, everyone would have wanted sven out.
True we didnt get the run of the ball and were unlucky to have our goal chalked off, but that wouldnt have hidden the manner of the performance.
And yes Spain, Italy, Holland ( even if they win it !) and as we have seen Germany will all change manager....
If we do go out I want to see us going out playing the way i know we can play, not defending for our lives for 90% of the
game.
If we had gone out being beaten 2-1 comfotably in normal time, everyone would have wanted sven out.
True we didnt get the run of the ball and were unlucky to have our goal chalked off, but that wouldnt have hidden the manner of the performance.
And yes Spain, Italy, Holland ( even if they win it !) and as we have seen Germany will all change manager....
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saltash seagull
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id like to see someone with some passion inside of the national side but there is no obvious candidate for the job
SussexSpur
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How about appointing a man who was a superb attacking player, won about 60 England caps, has Continental experience and respect, has managed at both Premiership and top international tournament level, and is currently available.
Yep, you all know it makes sense.
Bring back Hod!
Yep, you all know it makes sense.
Bring back Hod!
Beach Hut
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I stand by Sven - currently I don't think we could have a better manager.
Marshy (and other), as I said on the other thread I'm 47 and have sat through decades of dire England performances. When I was young, like you, I thought that if only we could change the manager everything would be OK. When Ramsey was struggling during the 1974 qualifying campaign we really wanted him out, eventually the FA bowed to public pressure and sacked him. In his place they appointed Don Revie the Leeds manager. He was a sort of superior Martin O'Neill as he'd domestically won far more than O'Neill has and he'd turned Leeds from being Second Division nobodies into one of the strongest teams in the land.
We were all really pleased. England had sacked the ditherer Ramsey and had got a man who really knew how to win. We knew we had excellent players who were capable of winning the World Cup and the fact we hadn't qualified with those players had all been Ramsey's fault. Things would be better now.
Well they weren't. England actually went from bad to worse and the man who'd looked so powerful in the domestic game was a complete failure at international level. He eventually resigned and went to Saudi Arabia and the FA got in Ron Greenwood. We were all really pleased, England had the players, what we needed was a better manager who .... etc etc etc etc.
And so it's gone on, year after year, tournament after tournament, manager after manager. Always the cry is the same "we've got the players, we need a better manager". And that's the point, we haven't REALLY got the players, we always delude ourselves that English players are the best despite decades of evidence to the contarary. You're right, we've got a good set at the moment - but so have (as always) a lot of other countries. Again as per usual our defeat is being blamed on everything except the fact that our opponents were also a set of skilfull, able, talented footballers who were just as good as anything we can produce.
Sacking the Mangager will NOT mean we win in Germany 2006. Trust me, I've seen it all before and it doesn't work. Ever.
We were all really pleased. England had sacked the ditherer Ramsey and had got a man who really knew how to win. We knew we had excellent players who were capable of winning the World Cup and the fact we hadn't qualified with those players had all been Ramsey's fault. Things would be better now.
Well they weren't. England actually went from bad to worse and the man who'd looked so powerful in the domestic game was a complete failure at international level. He eventually resigned and went to Saudi Arabia and the FA got in Ron Greenwood. We were all really pleased, England had the players, what we needed was a better manager who .... etc etc etc etc.
And so it's gone on, year after year, tournament after tournament, manager after manager. Always the cry is the same "we've got the players, we need a better manager". And that's the point, we haven't REALLY got the players, we always delude ourselves that English players are the best despite decades of evidence to the contarary. You're right, we've got a good set at the moment - but so have (as always) a lot of other countries. Again as per usual our defeat is being blamed on everything except the fact that our opponents were also a set of skilfull, able, talented footballers who were just as good as anything we can produce.
Sacking the Mangager will NOT mean we win in Germany 2006. Trust me, I've seen it all before and it doesn't work. Ever.
Marshy
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Brovian also assumes I am a teenager or somewhere there abouts.
Ok so im not 40 odd, but at 32 i have seen a fair amount of football and no progress has been made over the time of Svens reign.
If we dont change manager what do you suggest we do ?
Brought this thread Back for Easy.
Ok so im not 40 odd, but at 32 i have seen a fair amount of football and no progress has been made over the time of Svens reign.
If we dont change manager what do you suggest we do ?
Brought this thread Back for Easy.
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Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
And the Brazil match. And the Argentina match (which, although we held on for a glorious result, was yet another match where we were absolutely battered by the opposition).H block said:
Even the SWISS were giving us a good going-over until Rooney scored against the run of play - I was shitting bricks as the crosses went raining in during that match, while the midfield were once again chasing shadows.
How many convincing England performances have we had under Sven ? You know, when we havn't scraped through, or stumbled to a barely deserved result ? Croatia was a good display against mediocre opposition, but other than that, England have been pretty bloody poor. And there were plenty of qualifying games where we were tearing our hair out at the performances against such illuminaries as Macedonia and Slovakia.
We can't live on that bloody 5-1 forever.
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Ernest
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Erikkson is the Dick Tight of international football, forever dining out on a false reputation.
I'd rather have Tinselhead as England manager than this Swedish clown
I'd rather have Tinselhead as England manager than this Swedish clown
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Ernest said:Erikkson is the Dick Tight of international football, forever dining out on a false reputation.
I'd rather have Tinselhead as England manager than this Swedish clown
No progress?? Are you quite mad? Before Sven we were eliminated at the Group stage in Euro 2000, (having only scraped through via the play-offs in the first place) and we were bottom of our 2002 World Cup Qualifying group. Prior to that in 1998 we only reached the 2nd round. Under Sven we turned the W.C qualifiers around and reached the quarter finals of both the World Cup and Euro championships. Without wishing to be pedantic that is progress how ever you look at it, but, hey, don't let the facts get in the way of emotive polemic.Marshy said:
Yes he's made mistakes. Many of them and quite often the same ones again and again; his substitutions for example are ALWAYS appalling. If we could get Arsene Wenger - fine, but you are really deluding yourself if you think we're going to win the World Cup - or even reach the quarter finals again - with a one-trick pony like Martin O'Neill (who incidentally wasn't considered good enough for Liverpool).