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Time for Slade to go..?



BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
I am sure that I read somewhere that Slade tried to sign Dicker when he was manager of Yeovil in fact I think it was Slade himself said it last season, so he obviously likes him and his style of playing.
 






D

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Early days yet CJD, but i can see where you are coming from, however Slade says Dicker needs to sharpen up - not sure whether he means to play the full 90 or not.
I also agree that stubborn managers can be frustrating but if Slade can get us to half the position Lloyd did - the playoff finals for the original Div 1 then surely we will be all happy.
 








mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,471
High up on the South Downs.
however, having seen all the league games so far this season, the one constant problem has been the centre-midfield. Every game has seen our two central defenders continually exposed because they have no protection or back up from croft and navarro. Through this alone we have conceded so many goals. .imo.


100% agreement
 


Apr 17, 2009
824
Rural East Sussex
If we lose at home next week then i think Bloom is going to have a huge decision to make. Slade was given a good contract before the season started and to sack him now will leave a few people with egg on their faces. Two quick wins, then BHA are back in the running
 


Finchley Seagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2004
6,916
North London
But did he...?

Dicker was signed "on loan" just before Slade arrived.......(another Stockport player). The Stockport supporters who posted on here at the time, said it was already agreed that Dicker would sign permanently at the end of the season.............which "eventually" happened.

I,m not convinced that Slade wanted Dicker......for reasons best known only to himself. I believe it's possible that Slade thought he knew better players were available (i.e. Croft and Navarro) and is determined to stick by those players.......despite the awful performances those two have turned in so far this season.

In essence.........a worryingly stubborn manager.

Sorry but you have your facts wrong. Owusu, Borrowdale, Bangura, Anderssen and Heath signed just before Slade came. Dicker was signed by Slade, I think just before the loan deadline when Heath and Anderssen had gone back to their old clubs. I remember at the time he said he had wanted to sign Dicker and Yeovil and was delighted to bring him in finally. He definitely rates Dicker and, while I would have played him before now, I am sure Slade has his reasons for not doing so at the moment and will trust him. To call for him to be sacked for not playing Dicker after a good point last night is ridiculous.
 






theonesmith

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2008
2,337
Whilst everyone will agree on Dicker, the point is that's the ONLY thing Russell's doing wrong. It is stupid on his part because if we're losing games and the fans can see one of our best players is on the bench, it will only shorten the time before he starts getting grief. He said in pre-season that he expects us to take time to work as a team and get results - basically an admission that we could be shit to start with. So, with that in mind, if I were him I'd be doing everything I could to make sure the fans couldn't put pressure on me during that difficult period. By not playing Dicker, he's giving the idiots the chance to get on his back very early.

But ignoring that one point, let's use our brains and have some perspective. There are loads of joke clubs around this country who think that sacking a manager in AUGUST (or soon after) is the right thing to do. And that's why they're joke clubs who will never have stability and the success that brings. Facts are we're FIVE games into a 46 game season. We've picked up two points from those five games. If we were in December, 10th in the league, and we picked up 2 points from 5 noone would start panicking, so why should it be any different now? I know results haven't been great, but I now see signs we're getting better. Ok, we're still not good enough to be challenging near the top, but if we improve at a quick enough rate it won't be too long.

Oh my god.. A top class post from TCB! Never thought I'd see that :thumbsup:
 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Could it be that Dicker has not performed in training and Slade is not willing to start him?

Didn't Slade say something along those lines after tonight's game?

There appears to be an issue that none of us know about-let's hope that whatever it is, it gets sorted out pretty quickly.
 




SI 4 BHA

Active member
Nov 12, 2003
737
westdene, brighton
I really couldn't care less what has gone on behind the scenes, in Dickers short appearances this season he was clearly the best midfielder we had, so he should play. It's bollocks to say he had a bad pre season, so did everyone. FFS we lost to Stevenage, Crawley and Torquay, how bad could Dicker have been compared to the others? Slade said a number of times that pre season results didn't mean anything so leaving out a player, who we know from the end of last season is quality, because of a bad pre season is a rubbish arguement.

By saying Navarro was injured and that was the reason for bringing on Dicker, suggests that Slade was satisfied with the pile of shit we watched in the first half. There we were giving Slade credit for doing something about it at half time and apparently he was forced into the change due to injury not out of choice! If he was happy with the first half, we are in big trouble.

Slade is not the man to take this club forward, he has the tactical awareness of a golfish, and I really can't see him being in charge if we were to get promoted in aa year or two. However, I do agree that it is too early to talk about sacking him, we do have enough decent players to do well in this league, but they do need to start performing soon, if he is to stay in charge for much longer as I can't see TB being a patient man.
 


Chesney Christ

New member
Sep 3, 2003
4,301
Location, Location
Whilst everyone will agree on Dicker, the point is that's the ONLY thing Russell's doing wrong. It is stupid on his part because if we're losing games and the fans can see one of our best players is on the bench, it will only shorten the time before he starts getting grief. He said in pre-season that he expects us to take time to work as a team and get results - basically an admission that we could be shit to start with. So, with that in mind, if I were him I'd be doing everything I could to make sure the fans couldn't put pressure on me during that difficult period. By not playing Dicker, he's giving the idiots the chance to get on his back very early.

But ignoring that one point, let's use our brains and have some perspective. There are loads of joke clubs around this country who think that sacking a manager in AUGUST (or soon after) is the right thing to do. And that's why they're joke clubs who will never have stability and the success that brings. Facts are we're FIVE games into a 46 game season. We've picked up two points from those five games. If we were in December, 10th in the league, and we picked up 2 points from 5 noone would start panicking, so why should it be any different now? I know results haven't been great, but I now see signs we're getting better. Ok, we're still not good enough to be challenging near the top, but if we improve at a quick enough rate it won't be too long.

You're right. The Dicker thing aside, he's not really making any poor decisions. He's picking the team most people would pick. Compared to the amount of utterly twatty decisions Micky Adams was making in the first few months of last season, he's pretty much Fabio Capello at the moment.
 


Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,031
I vaguely remember either Davies or Dicker had problems at their previous club in regards attitude...just cant remember which one it was! ???
 




1234andcounting

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Mar 31, 2008
1,609
I was hoping that, having had the whole pre-season to stamp his authority on the club, never mind bringing more of his own players in, there would be a significant improvement on last season. On the basis of the four games I have seen this season, that improvement just isn't there.
- there is a lack of discipline on the pitch, viz sendings off in the past two matches. Whing being booked seconds after the referee had spoken to him and lucky to avoid a red last night;
- the team, whoever is chosen, seems unable to retain its shape
- too much dependence on the long-ball; bad enough if you have players who can play a reasonable long-ball, an absolute waste of time if you don't.
- a lack of complete match fitness - too many errors in the last 10 minutes, not costly as such, but symptomatic.

That is what I am basing my judgement of Slade on. I am sorry, but he just has not impressed so far, leaving aside judgement in starting line-up.
 


Horney

New member
Oct 12, 2008
549
The time to judge Russell Slade will be at the end of September. If results haven't started to pick up by then..he will be under pressure...the ' jigsaw ' is still being pieced together...anyone who watched that 2nd half display last night will realise that a solid top half of the table position is achievable.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
I was hoping that, having had the whole pre-season to stamp his authority on the club, never mind bringing more of his own players in, there would be a significant improvement on last season. On the basis of the four games I have seen this season, that improvement just isn't there.
- there is a lack of discipline on the pitch, viz sendings off in the past two matches. Whing being booked seconds after the referee had spoken to him and lucky to avoid a red last night;
- the team, whoever is chosen, seems unable to retain its shape
- too much dependence on the long-ball; bad enough if you have players who can play a reasonable long-ball, an absolute waste of time if you don't.
- a lack of complete match fitness - too many errors in the last 10 minutes, not costly as such, but symptomatic.

That is what I am basing my judgement of Slade on. I am sorry, but he just has not impressed so far, leaving aside judgement in starting line-up.

I'm sorry you are not allowed that opinion and we must give Slade 50 matches before we question his lack of management ability
 


goldstone

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 5, 2003
7,179
Whilst everyone will agree on Dicker, the point is that's the ONLY thing Russell's doing wrong. It is stupid on his part because if we're losing games and the fans can see one of our best players is on the bench, it will only shorten the time before he starts getting grief. He said in pre-season that he expects us to take time to work as a team and get results - basically an admission that we could be shit to start with. So, with that in mind, if I were him I'd be doing everything I could to make sure the fans couldn't put pressure on me during that difficult period. By not playing Dicker, he's giving the idiots the chance to get on his back very early.

But ignoring that one point, let's use our brains and have some perspective. There are loads of joke clubs around this country who think that sacking a manager in AUGUST (or soon after) is the right thing to do. And that's why they're joke clubs who will never have stability and the success that brings. Facts are we're FIVE games into a 46 game season. We've picked up two points from those five games. If we were in December, 10th in the league, and we picked up 2 points from 5 noone would start panicking, so why should it be any different now? I know results haven't been great, but I now see signs we're getting better. Ok, we're still not good enough to be challenging near the top, but if we improve at a quick enough rate it won't be too long.

Spot on. One of the most sensible comments I've seen on here for a while.

There is no way anyone should even begin to think about getting rid of Slade, but he does have to address the midfield thing. Everyone on here seems to believe that Dicker should be starting ... and it's rare to get a concensus on NSC!!
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,947
Crap Town
If we lose to Wycombe next Saturday it will be :bigwave: to Russell Slade. TB wants a manager holding pocket aces , not a 4 and a 6 unsuited.
 




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