Tim Carder - has written two of my favourite books

[andybaha]

Tim Carder has written two of my favourite books :

The Encyclopaedia Of Brighton

and

Albion A-Z, A Who's Who of Brighton & Hove Albion FC

If you have never seen these books I would recommend that you track down copies, they are the dog's do-das.

I wonder if there are any plans to update them. The Enc of Brighton was written in 1990 and as brilliant as it is it seriously needs updating. The Albion A-Z only covers the period up to 1997 when we left the Goldstone. Kerry Mayo is the only current player featured. It says ' Looks like a future Albion captain'. Dean Wilkins also gets half a page - 375 apps, 31 goals.

Both books would be on my (any many other people's) Christmas list if they were to be reprinted.

 

[Braders]

good call - and when we get to falmer an updated build a bonfire (or a completely different book from where BAB left off , the Gillingham/Withdean era - enough to fill a massive book in that)

and a sodding end of season DVD wouldn't go amiss this year, near enough watched how dya like that to death now.

 

[Bob!]

Tim Carder has written two of my favourite books :

The Encyclopaedia Of Brighton

and

Albion A-Z, A Who's Who of Brighton & Hove Albion FC

Yeah, but the best one is

Seagulls!
The Story of Brighton & Hove Albion FC

This one goes up to 92/93 (though I have got the updates for 94 & 95.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Lost my copy of the E of B in divorce. If anyone knows of a second hand copy I would be very grateful.

 

[Braders]

Lost my copy of the E of B in divorce. If anyone knows of a second hand copy I would be very grateful.

had a quick look but to no avail but keep an eye on abes books
( http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?bi=h&y=5&kn=brighton+and+hove+albion&sortby=3&x=33 ) the odd copy appears on there from time to time (if you don't mind spending 30 notes on one) plus loads of other albion books avaliable

 

[Hiney]

Re: Re: Tim Carder - has written two of my favourite books

Yeah, but the best one is

Seagulls!
The Story of Brighton & Hove Albion FC

This one goes up to 92/93 (though I have got the updates for 94 & 95.

 

[bigc]

Lost my copy of the E of B in divorce. If anyone knows of a second hand copy I would be very grateful.

Can't you still buy copies from Brighton Library, or the History Centre(upstairs from the Museum).

Agree about the book though, it's excellent.

 

[The History Man]

Thank you, you are all very kind.

The Encyclopaedia of Brighton is now out of print and there are no plans to reprint it. As those who have it will know it has extremely poor production values. When I compiled it I couldn't find anyone interested in publishing it, except of course a "vanity publisher" called the Book Guild in Lewes who wanted loads of money from me.

I was spending most of my spare time in the reference library doing research, and eventually they said they would print 300 for schools and libraries, with a few for shops. That was December 1990. By Christmas Day such was the demand that there had been about 10 reprints and about 3,000 sold. Sussex Stationers refused to stock it at a reasonable price, but they actually went out and bought a load from another shop just so they didn't miss out!

Anyway, because it was only ever done on an ad hoc, almost print on demand basis, the production values never changed. The www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk website is taking the (outdated) content on board around ten entries at a time.

I came up with that idea while I was researching Albion history on my days off - I was working shifts at the time. I read every newspaper from 1900 or so for Albion news, but found myself also reading other news - and came up with the idea of the Encyclopaedia. As this was the mid/late 1980s and football wasn't very popular, I concentrated on the local history thing.

Having done that, I then got back onto the Albion research, but you are wrong! I CO-wrote them with the late Roger Harris, who died nine years ago this year. I met Roger in the reference library, when we found we were both researching the same thing on the microfilm readers, so we got together to produce the books.

This time, though, instead of putting ourselves at the mercy of publishers, we decided to publish them ourselves as "Goldstone Book", meaning both we and the club could benefit financially much more - but of course we took more risk, had to find the money to print them, had to store them and had to distribute them.

I would very much like to do updates for both Albion books, but for the moment - and for the last 12 years - my energies have been largely diverted into the various supporter campaigns. IF we get the right result over the stadium this summer then I intend to hand over some of my responsibilities and concentrate on the historical side of things, which is my main interest.

Assuming that happens. then I certainly do intend to update these Albion publications - although in exactly what format I haven't finally decided yet.

You might like to know that there is a book called "Rebellion" that I contributed to, with 46 pages on the Albion supporter campaigns since that fateful day, 7th July 1995, when my life and those of many other people changed forever. It's not great writing - I'm not a fluid writer - but some may be interested. I don't get a royalty, just a one-off payment, so I've no vested interest. Unfortunately they made several edits which reduced my venom, twisted one fact incomprehensibly, and messed up the ending!

Anyway, thanks again.

Tim

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

I'd also like to add my praise for all the Albion books and the EoB.

One rainy day, in the old library, i found a street directory of Brighton which gave the occupants of each house. Being in a rush, I thought i saw that my ancestors lived in a cottage in middle street (c1900) that get's a mention in your book. That cottage has now been added to the Victory, so i always consider that a special place.

The trouble is, i'm not sure if the directory entry was for Middle or Market street and, on my only visit to the new library, I've found that the new, award winning building, just has one flaw, a serious lack of books.

Any tips?

 

[The History Man]

Well the Victory is on the corner of Duke St and Middle St, not Market St, so I assume it must be Middle St.

But on the more general point, the new library is a general library. All the local history stuff is in what is now the Local History Centre, which is the former reference library room in the old library in Church St where you found the directory in the first place - it'll still be there!

But you might find what you want on-line anyway at http://www.historicaldirectories.org which has searchable street directories from that era available - an amazing resource!