[Cricket] This is how to deal with clubs in financial trouble

[Gwylan]

Durham can't pay their bills. They get rescued by the ECB but the price is relegation AND a 48 point deduction. Imagine if the FL took this stance with every club in financial grief - we'd have clubs with minus points at the end of the season.

While I wish the FL were a bit tougher, can't help thinking that Durham have been hit hard here. Not only has it rescued Pants from relegation but that additional points penalty is a bit gratuitous. Wonder if Derbyshire will be next - they're in a real mess

 

[worthingseagull123]

Durham can't pay their bills. They get rescued by the ECB but the price is relegation AND a 48 point deduction. Imagine if the FL took this stance with every club in financial grief - we'd have clubs with minus points at the end of the season.

While I wish the FL were a bit tougher, can't help thinking that Durham have been hit hard here. Not only has it rescued Pants from relegation but that additional points penalty is a bit gratuitous. Wonder if Derbyshire will be next - they're in a real mess

So you would have been happy for us to have got strict penalties under Archer, Stanley and Bellotti

 

[Gwylan]

So you would have been happy for us to have got strict penalties under Archer, Stanley and Bellotti

We didn't go into administration

 

[Stumpy Tim]

So you would have been happy for us to have got strict penalties under Archer, Stanley and Bellotti

I'm not sure it's a similar situation. To re-ask your question, do you think Palace and Pompey should have had no penalties?

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

I was just reading up about this

I think the key thing is that you can't get relegated from division 2. So what they are mainly saying is, you're down and next year is a write off. But after that you are on a level playing field again

If they did it in the football league then we would see teams fall down the divisions and possibly out of existence altogether as the revenue varies so greatly the lower down the pyramid you end up. Having said that I just read up and it is only the equivalent of 3 wins (not including bonus points)

Although i completely agree that something needs to be done

 

[mikeyjh]

Wonder if Derbyshire will be next - they're in a real mess

Eh? We're monumentally crap on the pitch, but have had 5 consecutive years of profit. Very solid financially....

 

[ManOfSussex]

The football league aren't in a position to a rescue a club in the financial mire like The ECB have here with Durham and then ban them from hosting international football too.

 

[Gwylan]

I'm not sure it's a similar situation. To re-ask your question, do you think Palace and Pompey should have had no penalties?

... and others.

To be fair, Durham didn't go into administration but borrowed money off the ECB to pay their creditors. It's certainly more honorable than paying 2p in the pound.

 

[blockhseagull]

I also see that it means Durham have lost their test status meaning no test matches.

Surely this will cause further financial issues and actually seems a bit harsh on cricket fans in the area.

 

[El Presidente]

Didn't the ECB to a certain extent create the problem by making counties tender to host Test matches.

Durham bid too much and ended up in this sorry mess.

 

[Gwylan]

Eh? We're monumentally crap on the pitch, but have had 5 consecutive years of profit. Very solid financially....

So you have. I was basing this on the fact that every time I read a report about CC cricket, Derbyshire is always singled out as the county in most financial peril ... but it seems far from the truth

 

[LlcoolJ]

Didn't the ECB to a certain extent create the problem by making counties tender to host Test matches.

Durham bid too much and ended up in this sorry mess.

Yes which is why this seems massively harsh.

 

[mikeyjh]

So you have. I was basing this on the fact that every time I read a report about CC cricket, Derbyshire is always singled out as the county in most financial peril ... but it seems far from the truth

It is, and is a source of mild irritation, hence my air of defence. You're absolutely right though, the ex players brigade Twaterton, Hussein etc always pointing the finger saying we don't contribute to the England team etc etc. So while Derbyshire are very reliant on their academy, teams like Notts, Durham etc etc are going round over spending and hoovering up the talent but it's us that are the problem?

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Said all along it should be instant relegation and, if you would have been relegated anyway, down 2 divisions. The argument has always been it is unfair for the fans - absolute hogwash. But no-one in charge has the stones to bring it in.

 

[Gwylan]

Yes which is why this seems massively harsh.

I agree. To me, cricket has got too tough and football too soft on clubs. A club like Durham which has been encouraged in its expenditure shouldn't be a getting a worse punishment than the likes of Portsmouth

 

[Badger]

I agree. To me, cricket has got too tough and football too soft on clubs. A club like Durham which has been encouraged in its expenditure shouldn't be a getting a worse punishment than the likes of Portsmouth

Especially as it's f***ing Hampshire who are benefiting the most from it again.

 

[Return of the Rev]

Lets just hope TB keeps pumping in the £10 million plus each season then,as a business we are losing millions!

 

[GOM]

Durham can't pay their bills. They get rescued by the ECB but the price is relegation AND a 48 point deduction. Imagine if the FL took this stance with every club in financial grief - we'd have clubs with minus points at the end of the season.

While I wish the FL were a bit tougher, can't help thinking that Durham have been hit hard here. Not only has it rescued Pants from relegation but that additional points penalty is a bit gratuitous. Wonder if Derbyshire will be next - they're in a real mess

The points is not a massive penalty approx. 2 wins ish

 

[El Presidente]

I agree. To me, cricket has got too tough and football too soft on clubs. A club like Durham which has been encouraged in its expenditure shouldn't be a getting a worse punishment than the likes of Portsmouth

As much as I loathe many things about Portsmouth, they had two administrations, two points deductions, three relegations and at the end of 2011/12 all of their players walked out due to monies being owed to them.

They have paid a price for living beyond their means, but fair play to the 16,000 who turn up to watch them play at home each week.

 

[El Presidente]

Lets just hope TB keeps pumping in the £10 million plus each season then,as a business we are losing millions!

Closer to £20 million last season.