Things we won't say about race that are true

[TomandJerry]

Channel 4 at 9pm,

Could be an interesting watch with Trevor Philliphs hosting, he asks:

"(Have) attempts to improve equality led to serious unwanted negative consequences?"

 

[Bombadier Botty]

He might have once played for the white scum (THFC) but he proved a legendary player for us.

 

[Easy 10]

 

[Bombadier Botty]

He was a bit portly

 

[pastafarian]

Trevor Phillips wrote an article on Monday concerning this.

A few snippets of what he wrote.


"I already knew some groups were becoming so isolated that values and ideas which most people would find alien were tolerated and even encouraged.
But we had said little about it and done even less. After 12 months at the CRE I had come to the conclusion that, while beautiful in theory, multiculturalism had become a racket in which self-style community leaders bargained for control over local authority funds that would prop up their own status and authority. Far from encouraging integration it had become in their interest to preserve the isolation of their ethnic groups."


"The instinct to avoid offence is understandable. But its outcomes have been shown in practice to be disastrous. Victoria Climble, an Ivorian eight year old, was tortured and murdered in 2000. The subsequent inquiry by Lord Laming showed that doctors and social workers, desperate to avoid charges of racial insensitivity towards a black family, ignored or misinterpreted signs that should have led to her rescue .
Latterly the unfolding tragedy of the street grooming of children by largely Pakistani Muslim gangs in several British cities has exposed a culture in which public authorities would do almost anything to avoid being accused of stigmatising an ethnic group-including turning a blind eye to abuse. The Times reporter Andrew Norfolk who exposed the street grooming scandal, recently uncovered a film that had been commissioned by child protection chiefs to warn young people of the dangers. It was suppressed in 2008 for the simple reason that it featured a white girl groomed by a young Asian man - the most probable scenario, but one that was deemed unacceptable to be shown to the girls at risk. Instead another film was commissioned. It features a white abuser, a black victim and no discernibly Asian characters."


"Preventing anyone from saying what's on their minds wont ever remove it from their hearts. People need to feel free to say what they want to without the fear of being accused of racism or bigotry. That means were all going to have to become more ready to offend each other. If we do we might - in time - begin to see each other in our true colours. And surely that's what the aim of changing Britain's attitudes to race was all about"

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Ch4 always build up our expectations with these "controversial" documentaries, and they're always a massive let down. Something tells me that it won't say anything that isn't already being said continually.

Looking at the previews, it's going to be more about cultural differences rather than racial anyway - so they're likely clickbaiting with the title of the programme.

Are you contributing Muzzy?








Another thumbs down it is then

 

[Blackadder]

I'm recording it as it clashes with Fortitude. Quite a long program tonight.

Will delete if it doesn't deliver the goods.

Edit: may record Fortitude instead?

 

[TomandJerry]

I'm recording it as it clashes with Fortitude. Quite a long program tonight.

Will delete if it doesn't deliver the goods.

Edit: may record Fortitude instead?

This will be good to watch I believe

 

[TomandJerry]

0.5% Jewish population and 1/5th of UK billlonaires and on average their income is more, so using statics its right to call them money pinchers

 

[BadFish]

Are these things actually true?

I last one is a comparison that fails to compare with anything.

it may just be semantics but that is very poorly written.

How does one define 'smart parents'?

'Alchool fuelled crime is committed by white Britons' All of it?

I could go on.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Bit dull

 

[Eeyore]

0.5% Jewish population and 1/5th of UK billlonaires and on average their income is more, so using statics its right to call them money pinchers

Or very astute business people.

 

[TomandJerry]

Thing is, are we becoming more segregated?

 

[cjd]

Are these things actually true?

I last one is a comparison that fails to compare with anything.

it may just be semantics but that is very poorly written.

How does one define 'smart parents'?

'Alchool fuelled crime is committed by white Britons' All of it?

I could go on.

Yes....and don't we all know it.

 

[Harry H]

I would like to say that whatever colour,creed,race,religion,sexual orientation,disability,social standing or level of intelligence. I would never ever discriminate against you.
I would hold no pre conceived or prejudicial ideas about you.
Everything I receive comes from you....not me.

I am a blank canvas.
You paint the picture that I see.

 

[Dan Aitch]

He's a bit of a blunt weapon our Trevor, ain't he...

 

[TomandJerry]

He's a bit of a blunt weapon our Trevor, ain't he...

Along with John Terry!

 

[BBassic]

Ch4 always build up our expectations with these "controversial" documentaries, and they're always a massive let down. Something tells me that it won't say anything that isn't already being said continually.

Looking at the previews, it's going to be more about cultural differences rather than racial anyway - so they're likely clickbaiting with the title of the programme.

Have to agree. When Ch4 first hit the airwaves it was the alternative broadcaster. Not so much these days.

I get the impression that the "hard hitting cultural autopsies" they air now are the equivalent of a red top screaming controversial nonsense in the hope of baiting an audience.

 

[happypig]

He says Romanians are far more likely to be pickpockets by showing that 30% of pickpockets are Romanian but that's using X to prove Y; it doesn't prove what proportion of Romanians are pickpockets.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

She once let Guy pour his man of the match winning champagne over his KFC family meal.